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  3. Any screenshots or pictures of how the bait shows up on a screen? I’m assuming it kinda just looks like a ball of color but would be appreciated to have a point of reference
  4. I consider a teenager a 2 year fish . Now what is the avg weight of that 2 year old ? If returning to hatchery fish are avg 17 to 23 # , they must be 3 year olds for the most part . Especially if there are no or very few 26 to 33 # fish . When I say I have a teens king I mean is 10 to 19 # . Not a 2 year old . I see a lot of speculation on here about how old a mid teens king is . Does anyone know for sure ? We are assuming a returning fish of that weight is a 2 year old . We might be wrong on that .
  5. If you go to two riggers next year, you will want both in the corners.
  6. I have the Millenium and for the price, they are hard to beat.
  7. So I'm guessing 30 or 38.. leaning on the 38 they say an inch per year. Thanks for the great insight!
  8. When you look at Lake Michigan you are seeing the opposite, a drastic increase in overall size and larger big than we have seen in quite some time.
  9. Yankee can you message me a price on the plate.
  10. What we are seeing now is the Lake Ontario strain of King Salmon. They are no longer "West Coast" plants. This is what happens over the course of a species existence. All the more reason at this point to ask the DEC for protections of native species.. These kings are as Native as the Lake Trout the DEC stocks and refers to as native.
  11. The results don’t mean the lake is bait poor, just more mouths to feed. Lake Erie is in the same situation with walleye. It has become very difficult to catch a fish over 10 lbs because of the huge class of 5-7lbers. Nobody is complaining.
  12. I use Superior Fishing Products and I love them. I have the quads
  13. When I hear " teenager " for king , what does that refer to ?
  14. Yankee's WHI post really sticks the landing. And H2B nailed it with "we are in the new normal". As much as I love a big, ripping king, I actually prefer teenagers, particularly when you measure hits in dozens - IMHO kids can better handle them and my arthritic hands don't feel like they've been worked over by Cousin Louie afterwards.
  15. From what I gather , the DEC is under pressure to provide the best fishery under current lake conditions . Just because there was somewhat of an increase in bait fish In the lake that led to increase stocking doesn't mean size will increase significantly. I fished out of Sandy for the LOC I think 5 days . I saw very little bait . There were fish there because of good green water . I'm sur there is some bait but not west end bait The west end has way more bait early season . Which may be why almost all the leader board kingss came from up there . If the kings migrate up that way mid winter and stuff themselves for the entire time they are there , common sense says they will be bigger . I think we are in the new normal, for size wise . Maybe it's time to lower expectations. A 20# king is not a 35# king , but it's still a nice fish . That being said in the first ESLOs , the winning kings were smaller fish . Probably because we don't know how to catch them and our rod and reel combos couldn't handle them . If in fact those 12 to 18# kings are 3 year olds then it most likely is bait . Otherwise it has to be genetics of some sort .
  16. i would definately get the adjustables then you can fine tune the set up to your needs
  17. Starting a charter business sounds like an exciting venture! My advice? Dive in headfirst, but don't forget your life jacket! It's gonna be a wild ride navigating those waters, but with some grit and determination, you'll reel in success. As for the question in the topic, my two cents? Building a solid reputation is key.
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