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Thanks for your posts. Recreational boater and amateur fisherman here. When you say fishing the 28 to 30 line out of oak harbor, are you talking about fishing over 500 feet of water?

Business I was in for 35 years was mostly Italians. They referred to me with my German, English roots as a Carp. pretty sure that was a term of endearment.

Birthday outing with wife n kids, launched at 7. Went east of port fished 140-170, 45 -65 down, had great day. Finished only 6 for 13 but 2 were right at 20# one at 18. NBK on ten color was the stud!! Off the water at noon

And mine!

And mine .

So that explains Rob Westcot’s success!

Actually, I made something to use for Northern Pike in the ADKs last fall and it worked . I modified it a little to use behind a flasher , and it worked . At least it did today . Might not get anything else on it . In reality , these fish have the brain the size of a pea. They strike your lure from a conditioned response or out of anger . So if it looks good to them they will hit it if presented right. As soon as you come to that realization , you become a better fisherman . There is no silver bullet . There is no magic lure . It's not the arrow , it's the Indian .

I'll buy your IP for $10. Naming rights for $5?

What will it be called?

Went out early all days Thurs .. temp super deep we fished 85 out to 285 , still deep . Said screw it and went to work at 730 Fri . Temp still deep in close , Coyote K called me out to 380 . Did very well out there with kings , some big and steelhead Sat . Said to my son we drop probe at 100 ft and if temp came up we stay , otherwise offshore . Temp came up and we fished 100 to 150 and did very well . Mostly kings some big ones , a almost board brown . And nobody was in there . Sun went right to same area and kings were active were . First 45 min couldn't keep rods in water . Got a bunch of fish all 3 days with good action . Biggest kings were20# The Gary D rig was great and took half the hits , this morning almost all. Spoons did well also as usual with Carbons the best . I play around with lures and came up with something else to try behind a flasher . So a bit before we pulled lines this morning I put it out. I showed my son and he said I don't know what will hit it but it looks good . 10 min later , biggest king of day takes it . Put it back down and get another smaller one . Maybe I have the next big thing .

What size/model of honey bees?

Information is generally a one way street anymore. see ^. That's why LOU kind of petered out. The Cayuga Lake Facebook page isn't much better. Good if you want to see what's going on on other lakes or states.

Thank you for the update. I will be fishing out of Oak Orchard Creek the week of Aug 1st. Have not been in 10 years. Very excited to visit again. Thank You.