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Fishstix - I agree with your theory based upon "Laws of survival/evolution" and fish having a lighter belly than back. If you get too scientific about it, lures will reflect the most light back towards the surface. Anything below the lure will only see a shadow or faint reflection. In fact only those fish on the "sunside" of the lure will see any reflection of flash/color. (Unless the flash is reflected by micro-organisms/plankton surrounding the lure. It used to be thought that fish always look upward but recent study has revelaed that the geometry of the fish eye allows them nearly a full 180 deg vison vertically & horizontally with each eye. If you "google" strike vision videos, you'll find the most recorded hook ups are from behind and and on the same plane or just slightly below the lure. Tom B. (LongLine)

ToonF' - So if I troll up the flowing Gennese river with the North wind pushing me, the amount of blowback will be the same as if I troll downriver against the same wind :?: :?: Ground speed, Surface current/speed & current/speed at the ball are different things. Going into a stronger current at the ball will greatly affect blowback as well as probably making your lures go crazy. As long as you adjust your throttle to keep your down speed constant then yes blowback should be fairly constant. But you won't know what it is without a down probe, however some guys can judge their down speed and which way the down currents are going without a probe simply by watching the angle of the cable due to blowback. Tom B. (LongLine)

Trolling off Charlotte beach yrs ago, I caught a wallet with no ID and $220 hidden in a "secret" compartment. Tom B. (LongLine)

Ray – That’s why you guys should wear a hat: When it blows off your head you’ll know it’s windy & the direction it flies will tell you if blowback is on the rise or not. When icicles form on the brim, you know its cold, hence generally denser water & more blowback, etc. nyf' – nah, this one’s paid for. I’m thinking about the color though. MuskyB' – or a blow-hard? :mrgreen: Tom B. (LongLine)

What the guys said - in a picture: You get more Blowback: - the faster you troll - the faster the current your trolling into - the lighter your cannonball - the heavier your cable - the deeper you fish - the more hardware you have on the cable (probe) - the more hardware on your line (flashers) - the more lines your running on that rigger (stackers) Tom B. (LongLine)

Mullets rule :!: Tom B. (LongLine)

Ditto what Skeiner said. Also if you only increase the cup you usually get a faster wobble (going slow) but if you only bend the nose up you’ll generally get a little wider wobble (going slow). If you go back to a “normalâ€Â

Fishstix - I am a little surprised that more guys didn't offer up their opinions on the board, especially from the charter guys, however I did get some emails. Anyways, I found that with some lures, just a little dab of red works wonders. Maybe just a bead or a large red eye or maybe just a quick spray on the nose or tail. Sometimes a red LdrBk on a black spoon does the trick down 75+. Tom B. (LongLine)

Erin, Yes. I had a feeling some wouldn't respond because they had no experience with those color combinations. In all the responses, only with a couple of the examples was there an overwhelming majority and just about all of them had an “Eitherâ€Â

Dark Day – Light Day Results: 1. Either 37.5%; Bright 25%; Dark 37.5% 2. Either 25%; Bright 75% 3. Bright 100% 4. Either 75%; Dark 25% 5. Either 85.7%; Bright 14.3% 6. Either 14.3%; Bright 42.9%; Dark 42.9% 7. Either 16.7%; Dark 83.3% Thanx to everyone who posted or sent me e-mail: (note: this is not an endorsement of anyone’s product. Merely an attempt to clarify the old adage: “Bright Day Bright lure – Dark day Dark lureâ€Â

Fishstix - Those are classic. Especially the OnStar. LMAO Tom B. (LongLine)

Hey guys, lots of hits - only a few opinions. I know my photographic skills aren’t very good so here’s a basic description: (the “akaâ€Â

We all know the old adage: “Bright day – Bright lures; dark day – dark luresâ€Â

Mick – Plug companies probably agree with the “dark side always upâ€Â

Well the previous trolling question did receive some interesting replies so I decided to investigate it further. I’ve had to do a lot of late night research in order to answer this simple albeit perplexing question and I going to spare you guys the hours and hours of internet searching that I undertook and reveal that which I found out: RE: First of all we have to gain an understanding of the situation as viewed from the fish’s point of view. Kind of like putting yourself “in someone’s else’s shoesâ€Â

B.W. & Billy V. Congratulations on your gain. B.W. - Possibly see you on the river sometime. One Rochester/YT tip though, if Billy left any of those "Haberninski" lures under the seats, Throw them overboard :!: :mrgreen: Tom B. (LongLine) p.s. just teasing. There actually a very good lure.

Hank - 2007 minus 1952 = 55. What's ya do with the 1? Add it the weight of that last P.B. perch?????? YT - 27? with a lake boat, bass boat & a saltwater rig :?: :?: Man, am I in the wrong occupation :!: :mrgreen: Tom B. (LongLine)

Hey Skein'r - who you trying to kid? Semper Fi Tom B. (LongLine)

Okay enough of the Bull, This is a serious question, but it might get some interesting replies (if any) The situation: You out solo, in the middle of June; off the Genny; 9:30 AM; slight breeze out of the west; mostly sunny; you’re going to troll towards Braddocks at about 60-70FOW in slightly stained water at 2.2 mph at the ball; (only speed you got) you only have these two lures and because you left your dipseys home, you’ve only got your 2 riggers which give you about an 8 Ft spread. The question: Which lure do you put on the starboard side & which on the port side? And why :?: (Lures are Blk & Silvr - ignore the teal dots, they're just refracto-illuminescence (sp) from the angle of the camera lens.) Think about it... Tom B. (LongLine)

Stix - That YT's truck :?: :?: :?: Tom B. (LongLine)

Santa gave me this book. It has every lake, stream, permanent puddle etc in NY. http://www.sportsmansconnection.com/newyork/ I did a search for retailers in the Rochester area & it looks like about 40 places carry it around here. They also have it on-line. As far as shoreline maps go look back a few pages & you'll find links to gov't nautical maps that are really good. Tom B. (LongLine)

Saw something like that 35 yrs ago in a funiture store but wife got huffy when I tried to buy it for the kids crib. :mrgreen: Tom B. (LongLine)

Fishstix Next time I see this guy taking up 14 parking spaces at the launch, I'll ask him where he got it. Tom B. (LongLine)

Outboard vs straight inboard, I don’t know. But I’ve owned both I/O (Mercruiser) & outboard (Evinrude & Merc’). I'd go back to an I/O but ONLY if someone gave it to me AND my current 22 yr old 2-stroker fell off my transom in 300 FOW. (maybe over 280) Knock on wood, the only thing I’ve had to do to it was replace two tilt modules plus the normal maintenance. I.E lower unit lube, plugs, occasional fuse. You do have to watch you’re oil mix with a 2-stroker though. 50-1 is too rich for a lot of idling & will foul you plugs after a few weekends. Of course they don’t make things like they used to anymore, with the new technology out there, who knows? Come on Spring, This shoveling s()cks. Tom B. (LongLine)

Kappy - they merged with anglingfanatics Tom B. (LongLine)