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Never attach to the back of the weight. Just the line/lure pull is enough to deflect it especially on a turn. If you want to prove that the line supplies pull, just let some line out (without snap or lure) and watch your rod tip bend.
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You're not attaching release/line to that back loop are you?
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No one is arguing statistical math. No doubt their arithmetic is correct. The argument is that they take Northward 10 minute trawls with a net that is not all that wide. At 3 mph, that's only about 1/2 mile and off Rochester will definitely not cover 30 to 400 FOW. My argument is that I troll basically a N-S zig zag with an E-W spread of about 1 to 1 1/2 miles with a typical Saturday troll total of 17-20 miles. Last year I saw very few pods while major numbers were reported off Niagara. This year I've never seen so many pods. My conclusion is that they are not randomly distributed around the lake.
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The problem with the current trawling methodology is that they assume a random distribution not only in the water column but laterally as well. I realize they have the hydra-acoustical but, really, how far out does that scan from the trawler? Bait is usually in a tight pod and you may have to go 1/4 mile to see another pod. This year I've seen "mountains" of them. I'd like to see/hear the reasoning/math behind the random distribution theory. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Spent lots of money on research not a whole lot on preventing them. NY tried to get tough on entering ships but got "blown out of the water" by the Feds & lobby groups.
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Got 2 on Saturday but they were deep.
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Sodus 6/4 - kids trip!
LongLine replied to ryonybony's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Peek-a-boo… Launched early, in position around 5:30. Beautiful morning. Flat as a mill pond after the sun came up. River temp 69F, out a ways was 62.4F. Dredge working up river & barge was being pushed out the channel. Put in at 100 & worked out to 190 FOW. Bait on bottom at 110 but pods came up higher as you went out. Best day out there this year. 2 small kings & 2 stlhds (26 &28â€). All released to catch another day. Stlheads came 90 down over 170 FOW. NK Wonderbreads. Medium lead, going fast. Pulled them all in at 10, when the ragboats started to appear at the river. Maybe 7 boats out there. Luck to all, Tom B. (LongLine)
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The key is to keep the amount of rod bend constant. I've seen guys haul back and double the rod over and then lower the tip so the rod has very little bend in it. This allows the hook to work itself loose in the fish's mouth. It's very important especially with the non-stretch lines and heavy mono's. Tom B. (LongLine)
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What the heck?
LongLine replied to LongLine's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Bear - Give Hank a PM (L&M). I'm sure he'd look at them for you. My 75 idles right down with no problem. I only carry the kicker for emergencies & when I want to troll real real slow.. (I'm at the age where I don't want to find out if I can paddle in from 4 miles out or not.) Rol - They're in spawning mode right now. Mussels have pushed them out & salmon generally cruise above them (pelagic). Nature's law of survival I guess. Tom B. (LongLine) -
What the heck?
LongLine replied to LongLine's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
75 hp & still going strong. -
New to the forum- and to boating (kind of)
LongLine replied to SgtUSMC08's topic in Introduce Yourself
Try a MUP rig. Mag spoon or Slvr flasher high with a fly behind it with a short lead. Run it 10 ft back. Run a clean matching spoon 10 below it and 10 ft behind it. Down speed 2.5. (GPS 3-3.2). Start about 35 ft down. 15-20 min, change your depth. -
What the heck?
LongLine replied to LongLine's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Definitely bait. Dredge dumping east of river. Mud/slit would have shown black like rest of bottom. -
Welcome to the site, Tom B. (LongLine)
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New to the forum- and to boating (kind of)
LongLine replied to SgtUSMC08's topic in Introduce Yourself
Alewives are spawning. head to 90-130 FOW. Run some Blk & Slvr with a splash of red. Good luck, Tom B. (LongLine) -
So there I am on Saturday morning, clean screen for the last 3 trips but then I see this: . What the Heck? It’s almost 30 high & 50 ft across!!!! . Sunken boat? . Monstrous pile of seaweed? . Stack of Quagga mussels? . Go a little further: . . Hmmm….. . Headed further west: Probably saw 15 more. I haven’t seen this much in years! Wow! And hugging the bottom! . . Anyways, launched at 5:30. All 4 ramps open now. Love this scene: . Got past the dredge & headed out: Great day to get cooked out on the water. Just like a mill pond as far as you could see. Surface running 60-62F, dropped to 59 then back up again. Put in at 90, went to 160 & back in. Lots of activity on the scene, but all on the bottom. Took 2 steelhead on riggr’s running mupped bloody Blk & Silver, 35 ft down over 120-130. Off at 10:00, got warm out there. They’ve installed a “drop box†at the launch & they put a reminder on your vehicle to fill out card & pay. ($8.00) Maybe they’ll fix that dam rut! All of 6 boats in the new marina. (2 freaking yachts!) Oh boy, City blew another 30 million! Luck to all, Tom B. (LongLine)
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Diode (rectifier) is cheapest thing to replace. Also fairly easy to test. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Sub troll speed
LongLine replied to overthelimit's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
If you look at the currents mapping, you'll see they go all over the place and at drastically different speeds. Saturday however, there was very little movement along the south shore - central area. http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/currents/glcfs-currents-avg.html Tom B. (LongLine) -
Launch is open. 3 Lanes. 8 trailers yesterday. Watch out for logs. Tom B. (LongLine)
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New to the forum- and to boating (kind of)
LongLine replied to SgtUSMC08's topic in Introduce Yourself
Semper Fi. Welcome to the board. Tom B. (LongLine) -
You can use straps but be sure they don't slip.
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new to stacking
LongLine replied to Ohreelyfishing's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Try 10-2-15: FF on top, 10 to 15 ft back. Spoon on bottom 10 to 15 ft back. And 10 to 15 ft between them. Try to keep 10 to 15 ft between rod tips (min) -
Controversial Topics for Great Lakes Trout and Salmon
LongLine replied to cdq's topic in Open Lake Discussion
How about lake wind farms vs recreational T & S fishing on Lake Ontario? (electric-magnetic fields, underwater cables, obstructions to navigation, no fishing zones - no boating zones.......)




