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If you think you can get advertised IBO speed out of a Mathews good luck. I've owned 4 of them and the only 1 that ever came close was the monster 6.0. I got 330 out of that one. IBO is 70lbs 30in draw at 5grain per pound arrow weight. Since I'm only 28.5 at 68lbs I will never attain advertised IBO speeds. Total Chaos

Mathews Drenalin, 28.5 draw, 60-70lbs. All black, Bodoodle Pro 500 rest, brand new VaporTrail strings and cables, Specialty Archery peep with interchangeable aperture. IBO speed 309fps, real world 500 gr arrow at 68lbs is 268fps. The only issue is my name is engraved on the grip. I do have a grip from a monster that will fit I think. $425 shipped to your door. Paypal preferred. Thanks Sight, sling and stabilizer not included Total Chaos

There's 46 spoons. All in decent condition. Many good producers. There are NK 28's a mag or 2, some standard DW's, a few Michigan Stingers, a few Fishlander and an Evil eye. $100 shipped to your door Priority mail. Paypal preferred. Thanks Total Chaos

I feel your pain as I lost both of my Chocolates in recent years. Just put my upland bird vest and bibs out in the tag sale stuff and sold the gun 2 years ago. I just couldn't go hunting without them again. I look at their picture everyday and can't believe they're gone. They were 12 and 13 yo when they passed. A friend sent me this when I lost mine, maybe it will help. Total Chaos Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....

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Here's a pic of mine that I just found. You can see the reel mounted back and the pulley up at the front of the grab rail. Again, forget the Big Jon manual reels if you're going to pull Amish boards. You will break the handle off within the first few times of using them. Otters don't pull no where's near as hard as the Amish boards. I know because I've had both. Total Chaos

Forget the Big Jon reels, I broke everyone that I tried when using the Amish boards. I ended up searching ebay for teaser reels. They're aluminum and they hold up great. It's hard to break metal! They're pricey but when I fugured what I spent on the Big Jon reels and the replacement parts, in the end I could have bought 2 teaser reels. I reinforced my grabrail on my hardtop and installed the reel on 1 end and a pulley on the other end. I did use a Big Jon pulley which was fine. Total Chaos

Greg, I'll take a set of the black ones. Total Chaos

Again, here's an animal that's so reclusive that nobody can get a trail cam picture, yet there's at least 10 replys on here from people who have seen one??????????????? What's wrong with that picture. Most guys are running cameras at least 6 months out of the year and 24hrs a day. I run 8 cameras myself in what I would consider good cat country (because I too have been out west to Idaho and have seen a Lion and the terrain they like) and I have pics of everything except a MT Lion and a Bobcat. You expect me to believe that a person has better odds of seeing one then a trail cam? Not likely. This is a good debate though. Total Chaos

I don't believe that MT Lions exist here in NY. Until someone can show a pic with an identifiable location within the state I just don't believe it. Here's a few pics of some Fishers from my trail cameras. I saw one last year while bow hunting.

I also used the 75gr Ultimate Steel. They do fly great. The usual hunter reaction when we loose a deer is to blame something other than what it was and in this case it was poor shot placement or operator error. So to ease the mind of course the first thing I went after was the bh. I did the usual if I only had cut a bigger hole. I actually went after 2 things when I lost that buck and that was the arrows as well. At the time I lost that IL buck I was still shooting aluminum arrows with the Ultimate Steel heads. So I went to carbon express arrows and Rage heads. The thought process was stronger arrow with less flex means deeper penetration. Bigger cut means more blood and easier blood trails. In the end it has worked out for me but everyone knows the only real killer is to put the arrow in the exact spot that kills the deer. Shot placement, shot placement and shot placement. Total Chaos

Here's my bh history. I started out with 145gr Rocky mountain Razor heads way back in the day. They were a good strong head. Then to flatten things out I used the old savora heads with the paper thin razor blades. Never killed a deer with either. The RMR was a well built head though. The Savoras blades broke to easily. Then I switched to Satelight heads and I killed a few deer with those. Not a bad head but blades were prone to breaking on bone. Then I switched to Thunderheads and they were a darn good head. I killed many deer with those but I had a lost deer with a poor hit. Not the bh's fault. For a year or 2 I shot the Mangus 2 blade cut on contact heads. They penetrate awesome but fly like crap. I did kill 2 deer with them and no losses and both passed thrus. Then I went to the rocket mechanicals. This is where it got bad. I shot 5 deer with them and recovered 2. The only 2 were broadside. I actually had 1 bounce out of a quartering away 8 point. I also wasn't shooting a heavy weight bow or arrow. Should have listened to the experts on those heads. After that I switched to the ultimate steel heads with the 7/8" cut. Killed deer great if you hit them where you're supposed to. However I managed to make a poor shot on a big IL. buck and with such a small high entry hole and no exit that buck was lost. It was at that point I decided I wanted to punch as big a hole as I could in a deer and I switched to the Rage heads. I also bumped up the poundage and arrow weight and now I have the stats from the first post. I'd say I've had some experience with a broad range of heads. And given what I've experienced I'm quite content to keep shooting the Rage heads. Total Chaos

Well, I've read all the reviews and I finally have to repost. All the Rage haters here it's your choice to shoot what you want but there's no doubt Rages work just fine. When I get home in the morning I'll dig up some pics of what Rages can do and post. The basic facts are, if you're shooting 60lbs or less and using IBO weight arrows don't bother using the Rage. You won't have the power to push them thru. The problem with most archers now is the speed craze. Everyone is trying to get 300+ so judging yardage isn't as critical. This high speed can only be accomplished by dropping arrow weight which leads to less punch at the deer. I hunt Illinois and I have 2 bucks and 3 does in the last 4 years. The 2 bucks were well over 200lb and both were 4 1/2 yo deer. The 1st was quartering to me at 20 yrds and the arrow passed thru with easy and the deer went 20yrds and dropped. Last years deer was quartering away at 27yrds and again a pass thru( I had to go back at night to find the nockturnal glowing 15 yrds past the deer) and the deer went 70 yrds and dropped. 1hr later I shot a mature doe at 25yrds and it went 30yrds and dropped. The arrow broke both shoulders and passed thru and she snowplowed for the entire 30yrds. I've made borderline hits on deer here in NY that I know if it was a fixed, normal 1 1/8" cut I would never had found it. And last the most inpressive kill was a heavy 6 point here in NY that was quartering away so bad I had to shoot just in front of the hind quarter and the Rage angled all the way up to and thru the front shoulder. That was the only Rage shot that didn't pass completely thru but the buck went 50yrds and dropped. I literally passed thru the entire body. That said I shoot a Mathews Drenalin set @ 71lbs, 28.5" draw and a 520 grain Carbon Express Pile driver arrow. It's only going 290 fps but it packs a devistating punch. Sure it's not as flat but I set up my stands for 20yrd shots so it's not that much of an issue. I set the pin for 22yrds and I can shoot spot on from point blank to 30yrds and kill it. It's your choice what you shoot but I think most of the problems archers are having with the Rage is underweight arrows and low poundage. I only speak of Rage as there are other mechanical heads that I think are junk. Basically any over the top head will yield less than desired penatration. One last thought, Chuck Adams was so dead set against mechanicals it was almost like he had it out for the manufacturers. When the Rage came out he endorsed it. I know money talks but that goes against who Chuck Adams is. If he thinks it's a quality product then it's good enough for me. However the proof lies in my experience with them and the mounts hanging on my wall. Since 2006 I've only lost 1 out of 12 deer with Rage and that's because I made the dredded high shoulder hit. And even with that I still poked the arrow out the other side because while trailing you could see the deer was bleeding out of both sides. Total Chaos Here's a few that I killed with the Rage.

I also use Nockturnal nocks. Switched from Luminocks 3 years ago and glad I did. Much better product. 5 deer with them so far and no problems. Wash them up and reuse. Last year in Illinois I shot a nice buck but couldn't find the arrow. Went back at night and found it in seconds. I use green as I feel it works better in brighter conditions. Mid day and the orange doesn't do you much good but the green shows up nice. Total Chaos

They all work if you hit them where you're supposed to but for those times I'm off, there's no better confidence boost than knowing I just put a 2 1/2" hole in him with a Rage Extreme chisel tip. I've had some borderline hits that I'm sure with a conventional head I would never have found the deer. Total Chaos