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NK spoons 11 size 28 and 13 mags. $75 shipped to your door. Total Chaos

Dipsy Divers 8 Dipsy Divers and 1 Walker Diver. Only 1 has a ring. They are size 1. $55 shipped to your door.

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I have 15 assorted flashers for sale. 3, 8" Sin Dr's, 2, 8" Pro Troll Hot Chips, 6, Oki Lil Shooters of which all are UV and 4 other fish type flashers. All are in great condition except for the 2 Pro Trolls that have tape peeling. $65 shipped to your door by Priority Mail. Paypal preferred. Thanks Total Chaos

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This is just my experiences for boats from salt water. I've bought 2 in recent years and both showed no issues. I bought a 23ft Trophy that was like new. It even smelled new. No issues and ran great. No corrosion, no electrical issues, no nothing. The owner after me loved it as well. That boat came from CT. I bought a Baha that came from NJ and it was slipped all the time. Again no issues from the salt water. I did change out the zincs when I got it home and had to pressure wash some barnacles off it but other than that, again no issues. It clearly will depend how it was maintained and you just have to be smart about what you're buying. Both of the boats I bought were OB's, I'd be more skeptical of I/O's and inboards from salt. Best bet is to get a surveyor. May cost $500 or so but will be well worth it. I chose not to use one for the last 2 boats and I was lucky. Total Chaos

2008 Baha Cruisers 252gle with twin 140hp Suzuki OB's Total Chaos

20 miles west of Delmar in the Helderbergs.

Got this pic on my trailcam near Albany NY. And yes I know the time is wrong but the date is correct. Anyway, you can see the similarity with a Wolf and with a Coyote. I posted it on FB as well and the debate is raging on. So which is it? Total Chaos I added another pic!

So much can go wrong and not enough testing to prove either way! Swackers are a flawed head as well. If they don't get thru the other side you'll have a bad blood trail as the blades are full inside the animal before deploying. They may not deflect but they have problems just like the rest. JMO Total Chaos

Nautitroller, I think your theory is flawed. With a Rage the blade that would have opened first (if perpendicular) would have been the blade away from the body. The blades cross thru the head. That said the head would continue into the body until the other blade would contact the hide. By then it would be in far enough to not cause the cam effect. An over the top mechanical for sure would cause the cam effect as it has happened to me long ago with a crappy Rocket broad head. I still believe the Rage contacted bone somewhere. The arrow flopping isn't a concern to me because if it doesn't make it out the other side the blades fold back so there's nothing to hold the arrow in. For the few that I shot that didn't make it thru the arrow was always flopping and ended up flying out thru the air as the deer ran. As I write this I'm still questioning all the possibilities for the lack of penetration. As I push a Rage tipped arrow thru a piece of scrap carpet with just the tip of my finger on the nock I don't see any cam effect happening. Who knows what happened, all we can do is speculate. Well as I try this more the arrow actually wants to turn into a quartering target rather than away. As the blade releases it causes less resistance on the body side of the head and it wants to turn into the body more resembling a broadside hit. Just my observation playing around here in the house. Still thinking and typing. I wonder if 1 blade deployed in flight??? That would definitely cause lack of penetration! I wasn't there but did the arrow possibly contact grass or weeds before impact? Just some thoughts Total Chaos

You said you hit high?? How high? Look at the anatomy of a deer and the spine will be 3" to 4" down from the top of the back. Then take the rage Hypo with a 2" cut, take half of that, 1" and you could hit 5" from the top of the back and still catch the spine and stop the penetration. I shot a doe last year almost straight down. I caught part of the spine and the shoulder blade with my Rage Extreme and the penetration was not great. I was shooting 70lbs and my 500 gr arrow. Amazingly the deer ran, it didn't break the spine or even damage it. I got the deer but was amazed that the arrow didn't get thru. Deer react and things in the body move and what looks like a decent shot really isn't. I don't know what happened with your buck and since you didn't recover it you won't know either but you hit something that caused it to stop the arrow. Meat and hide won't do it. Every experience is a learning one, good or bad. Total Chaos

I checked today and I'm on the light side for FOC. 15% by the calculation formula. I suppose if I bumped up to 125 gr heads it would help my situation more. Could also change the inserts. Total Chaos

I honestly don't know what it is. I'll have to check. Total Chaos