Sk8man

Hey Nick, You should have bought stock in the company before making that purchase It probably cleaned out the east coast supply...

Congrats...and at that size he should be winning a baby derby already

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Most of my dipseys are black but I also left a bunch with original colors and I'm not convinced there is a significant difference in their effectiveness whether on kings or trout. As far as the "stealth" argument if you are the fisherman it may make sense but not if you are a fish. Basically the visual systems of most species including fish pick up movement and figure ground or contrast much before color etc. because it makes biological sense (e.g murky water, objects a distance away, early recognition of prey or predator etc.) and black contrasts most distinctly with the light above and the sky so in all probability they can see it or its movement in the water at a greater distance. If you notice fish eyes are located to the front but upward on their heads...this is not accidental placement... it maximizes their ability to see upward so like sharks they see forms, shadows, and shapes better than colors and interpret it more quickly. I suspect the majority of the phenomena associated with color discrimination in dipseys, weights, or lures is actually more about movement in the water, vibrations sent to their lateral line,and the action of things than the color per se. I know this will cause a great deal of tension and turbulence in the fishermen reading this and especially in the marketing folks out there but I think a lot of what goes on can be explained by "happenstance". This is the fish being in proximity to the lure or attractor, it presenting as a vulnerable object because of its movement or action and the fish being hungry or willing to "buy" the presentation. Boat speed, length of line out, depth of lure and/or attractor may be more important factors. We tend to look at cause and effect situations as something relating to our own "selections" or actions when in fact they may be related to very different aspects of the situation beyond our ability or opportunity to witness firsthand so it becomes something like "superstitious" behavior on our part attributing it to "color selection"......and yes I did have a couple coffees before writing this

I think Big Water hit the nail on the head when he mentioned "balance"...this is the "missing link" in the equation and is key to the solutions but some things have a "critical period" attached to them after which it may be too late to restore any sense of balance. Even very "primitive" people whether in Australia, Africa, or the Americas fully understood this necessary concept and integrated it within their lives....we have a lot to learn from them and hopefully before it is too late. Technology can be wonderful but it is not the answer to everything.

Those weights look very good. They resemble the shape of tuna which is the most hydro-dynamically designed of all fish so they should glide through the water nicely

Thanks Mark I've written that down just in case I forget by then....I'm kind of an old dude

John and Mark

We may all be myopic. Global warming is only but one issue and its origin may become irrelevant in the final analysis because the world as we know it is rapidly deteriorating in quality for many reasons some of which may be related to the natural cycle of things and others which are directly attributable to human actions or inaction. The oceans are becoming devoid of fish (over fishing, pollution etc.) and wildlife, Air quality in many places in the world is atrocious, Here closer to home the acid rain has spoiled much of the fresh water lakes and streams in the Adirondacks, tropical rainforests are disappearing at the speed of light. Some of the problems that at first glance appear to be "natural" in outcome have their origins in man made situations (e.g. Zebras, Quaggas, Flying Carp, Water fleas, and on and on from careless human acts). Many species of wildlife are vanishing before our very eyes and we choose to focus on "global warming" as the prime issue of the day polarizing our views and blinding us to the myriad of destructive events taking place all around us many of which do have clear cut answers. The real issue to be concerned with is what are we going to do to change in a meaningful way how we interact with the environment to insure that our decendants have a viable set of resources to maintain them with a decent quality of life today and into the future .

Looks like you had a good year to me Kevin.

Nice going Rollie.....tomorrow for me

John is right it is all about the global distribution of temperatures and moisture and the paths of the upper air currents (e.g. jet stream etc.). The standard traditional paths have changed and with it more variation in temps around the world and distribution of moisture and storm activity. I don't think anyone can argue that this isn't happening (unless maybe a member of the flat earth society but as far as the causation of it...that is open to debate (i.e. is it part of the long term variation of the Earth's climate or perhaps due to carbon emissions worldwide or the decimation of the tropical rainforest or all of the above etc.)

John, I have to hand it to you you're "hardcore" man.... great pics and results... it really puts me in the mood as the ice is forming up pretty good today here. I will probably have to settle for perch though and only a potential "accident" would lead to the nice trout you encountered. NIce going! Looks as though you've fully made the adaptation to leaving NYS best oif luck for the rest of the season. Les