Sk8man

Hopefully the video wasn't shot when someone was taking a leak

Trade them all in toward a Barrett 50 cal. with ballistic ammo beforehand Considering the fact that you are probably talking a short range situation since you aren't looking to get into it with them or hunting (you didn't mention if it was a 12 gauge but I'm assuming) the 870 with slugs. The rifles at close range would probably have great penetration but could go straight through without a large wound cavity....the slug because of its shape and weight at close range would be devastating as long as it hits a vital area (the key to any of the choices). It is the choice of the wildlife police in Alaska and California for dealing with those "last resort" situations with blacks and grizzlies. If a pistol ..44 magnum is the usual choice of hunters as their backup weapon up there.

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Thanks Mike.

Man...sounds like a rather frustrating day Mike. The "king thing" can be expensive...been there done that too many times .. but not quite as bad as hanging up 2 15 leader rigs of Sutton's on the barge cables on Seneca and having to cut the wire with 30 Sutton's and 30 bead chains etc. in the old days All part of the game I guess. You'll make up for it next time in the way of results I'm sure....it was a pretty tough day out there for most folks along the south shore from what I was hearing on the radio. Fish were really scattered and some in pretty close in cooler water....we apparently didn't go in close enough to start out and really had to work for the action out deeper. This is the nature of things at this point in the seasonal cycle though...every day is different and you pretty much have to start from"square one" each time out. Good luck bud. Les

I think UpGrady's summary is right on target! It is definitely very different out there from day to day.

Nice going on the salmon....I'm with ya on the perch too

Tx. Good luck.

Looks like a better day to do a "day trip" to a winery Nick

Good luck Ed. I'll be curious to see how you make out if you go. Les

Pretty good. You don't have to go as far out or take as much time as at Sodus Point to get into fishable water but tighter quarters in the channel and marina itself if you have a large boat.

A good example of persistence paying off Joe and especially how important the social aspects of this great sport come into play (good folks helping out fellow fishermen etc.). Les

It was a long day at the "fishing office" (about12 hours of trolling) on the Admiral Byrd boat with Bob and Scott but totally enjoyable complete with continuous b... busting the whole time and step-by-step instructions from both for how to land a salmon in one easy lesson as well as the finer points of setting your drag properly (while in the midst of fighting the fish) and netting the fish The radio chatter for most of the day suggested that even many of the "big boys" were struggling to get the fish they were marking to hit anything they could throw at them. We put in at Hughes and motored out to about 200 ft or so before we marked a few worthy specimens and tried to find active fish without success out to over 400 ft. with one hit that was gone before the rod was touched. We trolled in and out of depth marking fish at about the 100 ft. range most of the time or up so high that we figured they might be carp or something . We went NE to about 700 plus picking up one15 lb king in the process in about 400 something ft. on a wonderbread E chip with white fly at 340 back. There were lots of intervals of time and space without marks of any kind on the screen but we had a couple brief hits along the way with nobody home. This went on for the entire morning and into the afternoon. We then trolled inward to see if hey were in closer and marked intermittent fish at about 100 ft.down. When we got into the 230 ft plus range. We had some real nice hits which stayed on just enough to get to the rods then gone and a couple we had briefly on the line coming in then off. Everything came on flasher/fly or Spin Doc/fly. They wouldn't touch spoons on downriggers (or anything on them for that matter) so we tried a leadcore with just the wire rigs and never had a touch on the core/spoon setup. Still at about the 230 ft range the wire down 340 with the wonderbread E-chip/ white fly really took off with about another 150 ft of line and it was "game on". It was evident right fromthe start it was a decent king and everything went fine until he got close to the boat and saw the net. He then tried every trick in the book to get off...heading toward the prop, trying to outrun the boat, sideways runs etc. and heading for the bottom while trying to net him. After the 5th attempt Bob skillfully netted the 25 lb plus King with Scott driving and busting him all the way along Bob managed about a 9-10 lb laker on the way back in. We posed for pics but couldn't do all three of us at the same time so had to take separate pics with the fish

Could be a cross section segment of bait coming to the edge of the cone (the different colored densities?) or maybe a "streaker" checking things out but is odd angle...

Ought to at least get a Zebco for the little fella

Nice going! Right now I'd even settle for those "cheeks" you filleted up

yes....57-59 ft to be exact .....good point Mike! or spikes in the Spring... sure does bring back memories.

This time of year usually mainly depends on locating them rather than time of day per se but morning may be a little better without the bright sun...also depends on how shallow you are and water clarity. After the other day (algae problem) who knows what the conditions will be like. They spook easily in shallower water and in clearer water but if you are trolling out deeper and with cloudy water with a quiet motor you should be all right. They aren't real fond of muddy water either.