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suttontroller94

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  1. In the finger lakes I consider this transition from when the fish are feeding on the deep alwives which like to school up in the deep stable water in the winter 120-220ft down over deep depths. As the water begins to warm the alwives rise a bit and come closer to shore. Often this is when we have some of the best luck on landlocks and most of the time we stay off the beaten path that most guys take which is running stick baits and spoons flatlining and off short cores as close to shore as possible. We will instead fish depths of 80-250 and run flasher/fly combos, spoons and even sticks down to depths of 60-80ft. Thermoclines and temp haven't usually set up by then and they aren't bottom oriented however they are feeding heavily on bait so some days are going to be a struggle and others you will have a field day. Try running these flasher flies off a dipsy diver on a wire diver rod! You'll be surprised at how these fish fight in the spring.. weve had divers set on a 3 setting out 190 before roughly 75 ft down and saw the fish jump behind the boat before the rod moved then watched them scream drag like a king salmon!
  2. Everything has it's time and place for them. Spoons, sticks and flasher fly combos. Most of the time spoons and sticks will out fish flies for them however mid spring when the better size salmon are transitioning from their deep winter patterns to the spring patterns they can be caught mid water column on spin doctors and flies quite well trolling at the right speeds and with proper leader length behind the flasher
  3. Wow what a joke.... they want us to harvest resident birds and less migration birds but yet still harvest resident geese. Yet they keep the stupid September season that kills far more migratory birds than it should and get rid of the season that we actually get to kill local birds... the flyway counsel and apparently this new one of New York state are both jokes... cater to the deer hunters and claim they are being conservative to the migration however they obvious have not a clue in the world what actually happens every year. 15 birds a day and unplugged guns was the worst thing that ever happened to the Atlantic flyway goose population and these guys are too dumb to realize that...
  4. Is there no southern zone March goose season next year then?!
  5. You know how you make everyone in the western zone happy? Split the western zone in half so the regs and season dates are different from the Niagara and finger lakes regions.
  6. The Penn yan branch had some however the branchport branch lost what it had
  7. Are all lures in the remaining lot the older style that was made in Finland? It looks it but hard to tell by pic
  8. 150+ yes sometimes it can be deeper too. Often times we run mag wire divers out 350 of more aswell. Call me crazy but there are fish there and it's not always guaranteed you'll strike them but I bet you'll get more silvers than Lakers fishing like that
  9. We never had alot of luck with rigs that deep. Usually did better with downriggers and dipsys. Often spin doctors did really well however I'm sure with the proper amount of weight on a seth green and knowing how deep you were getting with it it could do well. Still far more work than flatlining though! But I feel like that's where the bigger landlocks hang
  10. 2 ways to fish this time of year. Flatlines early then small leadcores later or if that isnt working go out to middle and fish those deep baitballs. Not easy fishing doing the 2nd option but it yields good fish if you hit it right.... unfortunately by deep I'm talking 150+ foot down
  11. Was wondering this myself. From my understanding is like fishing used to be amazing on Sodus. Would like to try this weekend. What depths should I place my tip ups in and with what for bait? Is it a waste to bother while out in perch depth or is it worth a try?
  12. They are easy to tell apart when they are smaller but I've personally seen so many people say a 7+lbs landlock a brown trout that's when it gets tough
  13. Good deal that's awesome!
  14. Thanks! Tomorrow looks like a good day to add more variety, back to same spot!
  15. We decided to lake hunt yesterday after re-obtaining permission on my old spot. Paid off well with a good shoot. 3 man limit with my 6 year old boy there to watch consisting of 11 bufflehead 6 mallards and a redhead
  16. March season definitely isn't the best for it either but at least then the limit is only 5 and you need plugged guns however unfortunately we know New York won't take any responsibility for ultimately having a big role in this problem. I'm sure September season will remain the same days and March won't change because too many people complain about goose poop in parks and think of geese as a whole instead of the differences in the migratory and resident populations
  17. Kevin this has been a topic of discussion recently with alot of my hunting buddies. Hate to say it but New York needs to take a little responsibility for killing alot of Atlantic flyways migratory canadas during last 2 weeks of September every year for the last 2 years our state is just as much at fault as Canada. Just my opinion however 50-100 bird piles 90% of the time are not resident honkers
  18. Jealous! We've got another 24 days!
  19. There is another guy in trollers association that runs rigs off otter boards aswell. Interesting to see it done and not easy to duplicate. Yet highly effective. Makes those high water column leaders more productive being away from boat aswell
  20. Awesome feather pattern on that banded bird we had a good hunt this am aswell not amazing numbers for us but ended up with some jewelery. One banded and one banded and collared
  21. A lot of the typical 40,60,80 birds feeds this year but I will say I'm happy with the amount of 100+ bird feeds and the 250-300bird feed im watching now aswell! Dont usually see those so early in September
  22. 15-20 a flock is the norm here too
  23. Ok who's with me? I'm getting antsy Sept. 1st can't come fast enough!
  24. I will say though Brian I've watched your videos and it's highly impressive!
  25. Same thing happens on my boat I've just gotta crank it up by hand haha it is faster than most electrics just tires you out after first 20 fish hit the deck then it goes a little slower
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