HB2

Why risk losing the probe in shallow water . The unit shows surface speed and temp . $300 risk you don't need to take .

You must always fish like the fish are there . Even if you have a blank screen or see very little . Many times especially late summer I have had great days and saw little or nothing . Except for the occasional little slash , which represents a fish moving fast through your transducer cone . Less than 30 ft , I rarely look at my screen except for depth and structure.

I thought it was a LAKE ONTARIO thing ? No closed season . Look at the symposium goals . I appreciate Bass Pros support , but it is just good business sense .

Wouldn't A drop shot be illegal upstream of the first bridge under the trib rules ?

3 Brown's and a northern this afternoon . Water clearing up a little Same Orange head , white body . FUN!!

I don't know if you have a 9 to 12 ft steelhead light action rod , but the last few years my best way of fishing is a light jig under a float. Just off bottom. Land 2 nice Brown's and lost 2 more the last 2 times out in a few hrs total. 1/ 32 oz head with a crappie style body Twitched back slowly under a weighted float . Orange head / chart body . I am in the stream but in frog type water about 8 ft deep . I do quite well doing this , especially in cold water . Might be worth a try .

A Krocidile spoon outfishes a Cleo for me hands down . Not sure of the weight , 1/4 or 3/8 I think in silver prism with some blue , green . If Water is cloudy brighter stuff . I like to use jointed rebels or rattletraps if it's dirty . Water clarity dictates color / size .

Did anyone else notice the marquee photo backdrop of the poster ? A fly fisherman. Imagine that .

In the immortal words of Randolf Duke , " I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION !! " Anybody get that ?

I recall some guy on here keeps saying we would make a great 51st state. Now who was that ?

Is the LOC private ?

I listen to the meeting last night that was posted on here . Very informative and sounds like the DEC has a good handle on things . It confirmed a lot of my suspicions . When they raised the steelhead limit from 18 " to 21" and the 21 % catch rate increase was interesting. Sounds like the tribs guys want to up the limit to 25" to further help .Sounds like the lake guys are against that, as I am . One guy confirmed the copper / lead core thing. And the fact that stream guys are 85 % c & r . Also the " education" initiative to curb the unethical behavior. I guess what bothers me the most about the ongoing discussion on her at nauseam , is the disdain some have on here for the tribs fishery . Fact is , you can't have one without the other . Like it or not , we are all on the same team . We need as many guys doing this as possible to insure funding and improvements. All the woes of the lake are not the tribs guy doing . Some are . But lake guys need to take some responsibility also . I have done both ,a lot , and can count on one hand the trib trout I released that I thought would not make it . I wish I could say the same about the released summer lake fish . And from the sounds of the baitfish assessment , the average size of the fish is here to stay .

There is a lot of long copper lines being used these days . That might have something to do with it also .

The fishery isn't healthy ? You think it's bad on the tribs now , you should have seen it when the " cricket " was the bait of choice .

Only a matter of time .

Unfortunately , all those crowds are good for the fishery . Every out of state licence or dollar spent at a tackle shop, restaurant ,motel,etc means sales and state income and licence taxes and fees . And that's why our governor continues to fund the program . Also why DEC writes tickets and local judges have a hard time convicting . They don't want to chase away paying customers .