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So I'm guessing 30 or 38.. leaning on the 38 they say an inch per year. Thanks for the great insight!

When you look at Lake Michigan you are seeing the opposite, a drastic increase in overall size and larger big than we have seen in quite some time.

Probably 12-17lbers

What we are seeing now is the Lake Ontario strain of King Salmon. They are no longer "West Coast" plants. This is what happens over the course of a species existence. All the more reason at this point to ask the DEC for protections of native species.. These kings are as Native as the Lake Trout the DEC stocks and refers to as native.

The results don’t mean the lake is bait poor, just more mouths to feed. Lake Erie is in the same situation with walleye. It has become very difficult to catch a fish over 10 lbs because of the huge class of 5-7lbers. Nobody is complaining.

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When I hear " teenager " for king , what does that refer to ?

Yankee's WHI post really sticks the landing. And H2B nailed it with "we are in the new normal". As much as I love a big, ripping king, I actually prefer teenagers, particularly when you measure hits in dozens - IMHO kids can better handle them and my arthritic hands don't feel like they've been worked over by Cousin Louie afterwards.

From what I gather , the DEC is under pressure to provide the best fishery under current lake conditions . Just because there was somewhat of an increase in bait fish In the lake that led to increase stocking doesn't mean size will increase significantly. I fished out of Sandy for the LOC I think 5 days . I saw very little bait . There were fish there because of good green water . I'm sur there is some bait but not west end bait The west end has way more bait early season . Which may be why almost all the leader board kingss came from up there . If the kings migrate up that way mid winter and stuff themselves for the entire time they are there , common sense says they will be bigger . I think we are in the new normal, for size wise . Maybe it's time to lower expectations. A 20# king is not a 35# king , but it's still a nice fish . That being said in the first ESLOs , the winning kings were smaller fish . Probably because we don't know how to catch them and our rod and reel combos couldn't handle them . If in fact those 12 to 18# kings are 3 year olds then it most likely is bait . Otherwise it has to be genetics of some sort .

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Ah ha. Someone else has a 4 legged fish locator.

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I had 62-64 today. Sun is warming it up quick.

Just to add, fish seem to be everywhere both deep and shallow and in all over the water column. Seems to be warming up quickly as I saw 52 on top last week where Sunday I saw 57.

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