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Stinger hooks on laker jigs?
Sk8man replied to keukakatch&release's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
You might want to consider putting one of the hooks on the treble through the base of the tail on the top one and I think I'd try running the second one further toward the tail since you mentioned that they took some of the rear portion of the rubber off. Just a thought.... Another thought....one of the reasons wire and stiff mono was used for the other stingers I mentioned is because when you are pulling upward on the jig the stinger drops more vertically rather than flopping around as it might with (more flexible) braid....never used braid on them so don't know for sure.... -
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And the Founding Fathers had a problem with tea taxes??? Whats next the death penalty for taking a leak off your boat?
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Nice going Hermit and great report....felt as though I was right there .....lets hope the brown action heats up soon on these Finger Lakes....
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You've got to be more optimistic Tim and bend that rod right over like we all have dreams about....oh.... that's right....it is still June
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I think jigging is the way to go anymore on Keuka after our experience on monday with trolling. Valley of the Shadow was out then too near us and he only had one laker at that point just before we quit and we had the same....beautiful days to be out though and it doesn't get much better than the scenery on Keuka (and the wineries aren't too bad either
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I guess at least they don't go through a bunch of tires peeling out in the parking lots....
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Seneca New to Fingerlakes - Sunday to Wednesday trip
Sk8man replied to tdvries1's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
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Seneca New to Fingerlakes - Sunday to Wednesday trip
Sk8man replied to tdvries1's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
I think so...anything in white is often good. Good luck with it. There are a million places around there to get fish and the perch and bass are right nearby as well. Otherwise you can spend a lot of time and gas just looking around it is a pretty big (and deep) lake -
Seneca New to Fingerlakes - Sunday to Wednesday trip
Sk8man replied to tdvries1's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
You might be able to save some gas in checking things out initially by fishing right out from the marina itself if you are going to jig. There are nearly always lake trout lurking about out there. Just head right straight out of the mouth of the breakwall in the center of the marina and watch your depth finder.... for bait and or fish. They will usually be bottom oriented there (lakers and in shallower sometimes browns). if nothing of interest there head to your right (north) on a diagonal toward the beach area (still on the east side) gradually going deeper. They could be in 40 ft or 125 ft right now not sure....but there should be lake trout there. If not successful there keep heading slowly north on the east side and you will see a point and a building there they used to call the Officers - Club try fishing straight out from it or slightly north in 70-120 ft. I'm pretty sure you will connect with lakers at least at some point through there and still fishing, pulling copper and jigging are the best ways to hook up with them in those areas. -
If you have the type with rings and are they staying in place? I used to have to use hot glue on the outer edge on some to keep them engaged on the dipsey They are mainly to control depth but if flopping around.....? As far as the L and R I just keep mine in zip locks and label it left or right (port or starboard) with a permanent marker and those are left preset to near 3 so they stay out away from each other and the other stuff.I have others that I make the adjustments on and I often run smaller ones (0) off the outriggers set at zero usually. I might add that the more line or wire you have out they usually head somewhat closer to each other and back a bit and I'm wondering if this is what you are referring to....are you by any chance running them (the rods and rod holder off the back or near the back of the boat? I usually run mine from the center or even some of the front rod holders...to get the dipseys to the side of the boat. where you want them to be....just thinking out loud.....
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Good point from Chris Kuba.....
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Stinger hooks on laker jigs?
Sk8man replied to keukakatch&release's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
They used to sell pre set up stingers that had a very small treble (maybe # 10 or 12) on thin wire (like a light gauge 7 strand look to it) with a very tiny barrel swivel at the other end. You could carefully slip the barrel swivel over one of the hooks of your main hook so that the stinger dangled below it and the barb pretty much prevented it from slipping back off. or you could tie it off with very short piece of mono if the hook was too big worked pretty good in the old days....another version is made from mono and I have a few down cellar .....let me go check and I'll take a pic..... Here it is: Basically it is a short 3 inch piece of mono (about 15 lb test in this case) with a small #10 or 12 treble at on one end and a (large or extra large is the size) Kwik Klip (Fast Snap) at the other and two crimps carefully used in place of knots. attach the clip to the eye of the jig and let it dangle They can also be used for"short hitters" when trolling spoons by attaching them to the split ring at the hook end of the spoon or the hook eye itself (especially larger spoons so it doesn't impair the action). -
Hey Kuba....I think first of all I'd ditch the snubbers. but the tracking situation could be a number of things - first of all is the actual settings on the dipsey. Make sure the thing that turns to set it is not too loose, secondly make sure it is not set at the outer limit near the 3 because if even a tiny bit past it it will track poorly and sometimes even surface without releasing. Next check your boat speed because it is not just the angle of the rods...look at the angle of your line and slow down and check the position of the dipsey as you do. It also depends on what you are running in back of the dipsey ...if it is something with a lot of action or maybe too large for that particular dipsey it can keep it from working right. Check to see that it is going outward when you turn the boat to the opposite side. If not, jump overboard.... ...just kidding don't do it! Double check the release part of the dipsey to make sure it is engaged properly.
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Not bad for "life in fast forward" Andy
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What size dipsey do you use?
Sk8man replied to Barndog's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
I use each of the sizes of divers for different situations and depending on the particular body of water. The smaller ones I use with 20 lb. mono in shallow water or running say 20-45 ft in very deep water and yes they do hit bottom in 40 ft.of water with mono at 2.1 mph on zero setting as evidenced just yesterday. I don't use them for Kings on Lake O that way though. I generally use the medium divers for depths to about 70 ft. and 124mm DEEPER DIVERS for 80-125 ft. on 7 strand wire. The additional thing I do when I want additional depth from divers is use an inline cylindrical weight with an integrated swivel attached between my main line and the diver instead of just letting out more line and risking more tangles. Yes it adds a bit of torque to the rod but not all that much and it does get you deeper unless you are trolling in the ocean at 8-10 mph or perhaps going against very strong underwater currents It also depends to a degree on what you have attached to the diver (e.g. Spin Doc/fly vs. just a spoon). Another thing to do is check out your particular setup behind the boat on the surface and see how it is running (yes it does run somewhat differently sub surface with currents etc.) and try to use lures that you know run at compatible speeds so that you can then adjust your general trolling speed downward so that they all (or most) run well at that speed and yet go deeper. On the Fingers at least often times folks run too fast and cancel out the action of their lures (especially speed sensitive lures like Suttons) and experience "light bites" and poor hook-ups. -
Keuka 6-19-13 with JB235 and his secret method.....
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
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If the wind is bad you also have the option of fishing in the Seneca River from either lake for bass.
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Keuka 6-19-13 with JB235 and his secret method.....
Sk8man posted a topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Well it was Sk8man and Jb235 after them big time on Keuka on Jim's Grady this morning about 6:30AM until about 1:30 PM. We trolled from Keuka College across and south on the east side to Eggelston Point then cut across to the west side to just west of the bluff then across to south of Gibsons Landing. We had 5 rods out the entire journey and it consisted of a lead core with 7 colors and 100 ft of braid out, downrigger with slider, two dipseys, and a yellowbird out about 75-100ft. We used combinations of numerous spoons and sticks. We covered from 27 ft. to over 150ft. depths. Along the way we picked up a laker on one of the the dipsies about 18- 20 inches or so (standard cookie cutter model).on the east side down about 35 ft. The most exciting part of the day however was JIm's secret trolling technique.....trolling leadcore for perch with a 4 inch long Renegade stickbait 40 ft down over 100 ft of water. Here is the exciting proof of this new tactic - and proof that we were on Keuka -
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Not sure where you are located but you may for starters want to pick up one of the Fishing Hotspots maps at someplace like Walmart or Gander Mountain etc. to get a feel of things at least. Most of those maps are good for just getting a feel for places you haven't been before prior to going there....just a thought....
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Yeah...I guess the only thing left to brag about is that we have the least competent legislature in the United States






