Captain Carl Bish

John, Yep, saw you heading in. Like your boat! The location of the fish and calm seas are perfect for solo trips right now.

Why would anyone call you at 5am?

Mort and Tom, Are you sure they were fleas............the cotton wood was real bad on the calm lake today!!!! AND Nice Fish!!!

John, Thanks for the report. That's some good fishin', sometimes I miss the days of being out by myself in a smaller boat and going 1 on 1 with the kings!! The mag spoons have been working all spring, but not exclusively as the smaller spoon have been taking their share of fish as well.

NOW that's Funny..................................... .................... and I know the pink thing is true cause when BUFFY BOY went by me on his 17 mile troll at 4pm yesterday there was not a fly around him and he was bright PINK!!!

I thought you guys looked sharp walking by the dock last week at the Oak. I couldn't read your shirts from where the back of my boat, but you all seemed very cordial and professional. I really would not worry about ANYTHING someone in competition with you says. In my limited exerience, the more they talk the bigger your influence is, jsut ignore them and chuckle. Like the old saying goes: "Water off the FroggToggs back!!" (NO NO not a sponsor of me, I prefer Hefty!! ) Eventually, if you pay no attention it all goes away or at least will seem like has.

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name:Capt. Carl Bish/Salmo salar ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):June 17 Time on Water: 6am - 2p, Weather/Temp: warm mostly sunny Wind Speed/Direction: SW 5-15 mph Waves: <1' Surface Temp: 58 - 65 Location: East of Point Breeze LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 18 Total Boated:12 Species Breakdown:King, coho, brown, rainbow, lake trout Hot Lure: Moonshine little Geezer Trolling Speed: 3 Down Speed: 2.7 Boat Depth: 26 - 160 Lure Depth: 15 - 110 ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Set up right in front and trolled north to 160', made a turn and trolled back to 60' turned east and fished into 35' in front of glass house, moved out to 140 and zigg zagged between 140 and 100 back to the Point. Worked way too hard for the fish we caught, should of stayed in the 100 - 140 level all morning. The hot lure was the Little Geezer on a 3 color and a high dipsy (40') combining for 6 of our fish. No other lure took more than one fish but I will list them: ALL MOONSHINES: 200' copper Mag V neck 500' copper Bad Kermit (hit 2x lost mature king 35' behind the boat ) 100' dipsy Red Echip agent orange fly 94' Little Bruiser 32' Tangerine Tiger 110' Carbon 14 (mupped) The inside water (26fow) was 58 on the top and 52 degrees 20' down. Tons of bait in the shallows, I'm thinking that the browns were in even shallower, but I did not go in and check, should have, but didn't. Kings were in the ice water on the bottom between 100 and 110 fow. Besides the one we dropped behind the boat, another bruiser hit the 250 dipsy and broke the leader before we could get the to rod, Gator spinny, carbon 14 fly. Wierd day as most of the fish were in the top or bottom 15 fow. Out of the 18 hits only 4 came in the middle of the water column, and that's counting 32' as in the middle.

Did it work? Mine did both in the morning and the evening and my feet were well cushioned all day!! PS........you didn't have to wear knee highs!!

Good Job, thanks for the pic of Tom's good side, but where was his hat???

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name:Captain Carl Bish/Salmo salar ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): 6-15 Time on Water:6am - 2pm, 4:30 pm - 7pm Weather/Temp: Cloudy early then sunny and warm Wind Speed/Direction: late NE 5mph Waves: <1 Surface Temp: 65 Location: LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 19 am/ 5 pm Total Boated: 12 (am) / 4 (pm) Species Breakdown: Browns, Steel, Kings, Lakers Hot Lure: MOONSHINE Geezer, MOONSHINE Purple Nurple Trolling Speed: 3 Down Speed: 2.6 Boat Depth: 23 - 180 Lure Depth: 15 - 150 ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Started the morning at 60' right in front of the shoot. Had a steelhead take a purple geezer at 50' on the setup, and another on the MOONSHINE Tangering Tiger down 35'. Noticed that the down temp was cold so I began a south troll to find the sweetspot where 55 degrees hit the bottom. I figured that I could take advantage of the overcast sky and put some brownies in the box. We got all the way into 23 fow and still had cold 50-52 degree water on the bottom, but the <40fow troll netted us 4 browns and another steelhead. Plain Geezers on the riggers and Ratchet Jaw on the dipsy #3 out 40'. The sun came out and we moved out and began to work a NE/SE troll. Got a tip from JAX that the marks on the bottom in 150 were kings so I put a rigger down to 150 and got a Hog Laker, MOONSHINE Purple Nurple. Moved into the 100' area and the deep copper (+/- 500') with a RV Purple Nurple just started screaming off the backing we made a sharp turn to port to save some line an the port dipsy out 100' also with a purple nurple got slammed by another steelhead, we got them both. It was our only mature king for the day. The evening trip we did not have much time so we stuck it out in 60 fow off the ladders and our junk lines did most of the work. 1 steelhead of the 65' dipsy/Purple Nurple, 1 Brown, 45' dipsy MOONSHINE Green jeans, another steelhead 6 color Tangerine Tiger, 60' rigger took a laker with a Green Jeans. Currents were whipping today, had the inside water all to myself and a couple of bass fishermen just inside of me.

For myself, I really like a spinning reel in the rigger the penn reels in 550, 650 hold enough line to fight any lake ontario fish off the rigger. The problem with spinning reels is when inexperienced anglers constantly reel when no line is gained, this results in line twist.

Spend the long dollar on the reel, the budget you have stated you can get a good reel and a $20 rod and bring alot of fish to the boat. You can always get the Fenwicks or St Croix next father's day. The BEST diver reel on the lake is the Abu Garcia 7000i LC, they are a little less expensive than the shimanos and a little more than the diawa 47, I have been running them for 3 years (thats about 240 days on the water) and they are as good today as they were when I took them out of the box!! The drags do not advance or retard and lock solid in the holder so there is no creeping with a light drag. Super smooth! An inexpensive rod is the Diawa Wilderness rod, I bought a half dozen of them last spring and use them on my copper, I think I paid about $14 each - new!

Nothing wrong with setting up rigger poles with spinning reels. You will have a hard time finding left hand reels with line counters or ones that hold enough line for long copper.

Don't give away my secrets!!

Mark, I don't think that would work for Tom, his Hot Pink stocking are way to thin to prevent fly bites..............but.................they will keep most of the men and ALL of the women away!!

Tom, SHUSH........I'm messing with guys from Michigan, trying to get into their heads so they don't catch all of your fish!!! Those boats from Michigan have so many good lures on them they will clean out our lake!!!

Clear plano boxes, sorted by color and or manufacture.

Mark, If you had the wool socks on you wouldn't need to pee on yourself! Here's to hoping hyerbole sinks the thread!!!

Tony, In the "questions about trout & salmon...." portion of LOU there is a thread called "Down Temp" please check it out. Here is a copy of my post from that thread: I am a bracket fisherman as well, first rod down stops at 50', then the probe goes down to find 58 degrees, I adjust my first rigger to that depth and drop the probe to 49 degrees. On most summer days the lower margin of the mesolimnion is 49 degrees, and at that depth the temp will be inconsistent fluctuating in the 40's depending on speed and direction. I will often run a 600' copper to keep the deep fish honest. While the probe is mostly used for speed, it is important to keep an eye on the temp all day long because conditions can change and the faster we react the more consistent the bite will be.

Some of my favs and I second Missdemeanor on light spoons: Coho's & Steel: Orange honeybees, Moonshines Tangerine Tiger, silver/orange evil eye Kings: NK lite orange crush, Moonshine Geezer, Moonshine Orange Slice Early season we seem to take more kings on the sliders, summer they are deadly on steel. A fixed cheater 7' above a choked up spoon takes a fair number of kings all summer long (mup rig) using the same spoon as the one below but usually in a different size.

You can not use Michigan spoons in NY waters, all fish caught in NY must be caught on Northern King or Sutton spoons. In the case of flies you must use A-tom-mik. JUST SO YOU KNOW THE RULES!!!

Fact is that the sprays and solutions will work on some people but not others, in fact some people may not even get bit at all. This all has to do with the chemistry of an individuals skin/sweat/blood ect.. If you are adverse to wearing thick socks (they work because the mouth of the fly is not long enough to reach your skin) you may want to try ingesting vitamin B-1 or Thiamine, found in; pill form or nuts, meats, tuna, Brussel sprouts. Again, depending on your body's chemistry this protein tends to repell biting insects, especially if they seek you out for your sweetness like myself and "Mortigan". Another thing you may wish to try is rubbing the blood of a mature (needed for maximum bioaccumulation) lake trout or brown trout, especially if you could get one from Hamilton harbor. The amount of Mirex in the blood should be sufficient to impede the life cycle of the fly hampering reproduction, but may not prevent it from biting you.

Hat, sunglasses, Beard, Long sleeve guide shirt & pants no fish repelling, cancer causing chemicals needed!..............................and wool socks!!!

Use braid and use power pro, 30# should be fine.