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  1. The more I think about this , the more it grinds my gears . We got bent over because we were easy pickings IMO . I don't know about the rest of you Sandy guys , but I'm ready for a fight . They can give us 25 k+ salmon , some steelhead and Brown's .
  2. Nothin but love for you King Davy and the creel guy . But anybody with an IQ higher than a canary know its mostly about economics . So why don't these guys just come out and say it . I'm sick of the song and BS dance from these gov types. A lot of the reasoning I hear from these guys is contradictory . Which make them lose their credibility . Hey Whaler , what Brown's ? I guess I will see soon enough about the King return to Sandy . Last year I landed 72 after Labor day and the year before 73 . And lost a,whole bunch more . Both stagers and in the creek on plugs and eggs . But I did not get the domestics I have in the past . Which disappointed me . And not a lot of Brown's in the fall , but not bad after ice out .
  3. Well there you have it . We had a good thing going that benefited both lake and stream anglers and because we don't have a tackle shop or lodge we get thrown under the bus . I knew this and the creek survey guy adamantly denied it . Which is why I kept prodding him . Maybe he knew and wouldn't say or maybe this is what he has been told . He seemed like a good person . So I assume the best . If it's about economics , how can we be live anything we hear from these guys in the future after the reasons they gave ? I'm disappointed . But not surprised .
  4. Well there you have it . We had a good thing going that benefited both lake and stream anglers and because we don't have a tackle shop or lodge we get thrown under the bus . I knew this and the creek survey guy adamantly denied it . Which is why I kept prodding him . Maybe he knew and wouldn't say or maybe this is what he has been told . He seemed like a good person . So I assume the best . If it's about economics , how can we be live anything we hear from these guys in the future after the reasons they gave ? I'm disappointed . But not surprised .
  5. A lot I see and hear about this flies in the face of what we are taught about diversification or more simply put , what grandma told me about putting all my eggs in one basket . How is survival rate determined ? We can't tell what port penned what returning fish came from and if it's wild or not because they stopped marking the fish for some reason or another . I was told by a business owner that the reason for this is they are concentrating the penned fish at the stream sites that have the most pressure and the guys have fish to catch when they get here , plain and simple . Weather that's completely true or not ....... But I think it partly is . And I think there is some politics and arm bending . There is , and it all comes down to this , a lot of money to consider . I was told I'm a" stakeholder " as we all are . But it seams the Sandy folks stake ain't as big as some .
  6. Obviously smarter folks than me are making these decisions . But how do they know where the fish were penned to determine survival rates ? Many factors could influence that . Clear calm water for days and a huge flock of cormerants at the release site to name one .
  7. Have,used both braid and wire Now I use just braid . I catch just as,much and it is more forgiving . I use 65# power,pro but some guys use 80 or 100 .
  8. The decision to manage the kings for the lake and steelhead for the tribs , while controversial , was probably the best approach . But the reality of the situation is both are available to both fisheries and stakeholder to use his term depend on that both for fun and more importantly economics,. I have heard from those who worked on the Sandy pens that the Sandy fish exceeded in vitality all the south shore pen projects every year . So if that in fact is the case and the kings are managed for the lake , ALL the penned reared fish should be raised at Sandy . If you want the best results. But that ain't gunna happen . This guy was just regurgitating what the higher ups are saying . And believe me I applaud the results of how,good this fishery is . But sometimes , I wonder .
  9. So I went out in my row boat last evening for some bass action about 6 at Sandy . The creek survey boat was sitting there . I joking said to the guys that there aren't any boats out there so what are you guys doing ? He replied , " we go where they send us " . I then ask him why we don't get any pen kings anymore . He gives me a long winded answer that they look at the science , baitfish , etc to determine the amount of kings stocked so as not to crash the baitfish . And that stakeholders determine it was,best for the fishery to concentrate the pen efforts to the ports that now get them. I then asked who are the stakeholders . He replied all of us . This went on for about 20 min mind you and this is the readers digest version . I then said well I guess its " F" us . And because we don't have the business on this creek to make a stink . He said oh no that not how it is. We want the returning fish to go to the creeks with the most pressure . I strongly asked him if he came down here under the bridge salmon time . And if he ever checked all the bridges for the out of state plates all the way up to Holley ? I then said , I'm all good with the stocking numbers if thats what you guys determine it needs to be for the bait biomass but that has nothing to do with Sandy being cut out of the pen efforts. And that it was purely for economic reasons . He strongly defined that . I think he got sick of me questioning his reasoning so he,gave me his bosses number and said to call him . To which I replied I expect more of the same
  10. Get a few j plugs , size 3 or 4 glow green , pearl white and silver bullet red head. After labor day go to the Oak or Genny first light or just before dark . 12 to 60 ft generally out front FUN !
  11. Fishing has been bad this year in general Even seasoned guys are struggling . So don't feel to bad about it . I have been doubting myself this year also . In a few weeks the salmon will be staging That's a good time to go out and catch a few if they are around.
  12. Whaler stated tributary regs . For Sandy it is south of the parkway bridge. I believe they start Aug 15 but I'm not sure But it seem to matter less and less to people because they fish there after dark more and more . I reported to DEC last year . They got back to me about a week later and thanked me for my concern . Don't know what happened I was in my row boat this spring under the bridge and CEO called me over and checked my license . I told him of the antics down there at night salmon time . He told me he does not like to go down there at night alone because he has arrested some he checked that had warrants down there and it can become dangerous for him down there . Can't say I blame him. I thought of getting a paint ball gun and launching rounds at the offenders because I can see them from my Sun room and it kind of kisses me off .
  13. Yeah , well she better do what they say or she will get the same treatment . Look at how the Dems treat anyone in their way . They are ruthless. It's shamefull .
  14. My question is why everyone on the left is so strongly against him . And please don't tell me how much they care about the victims , because They surely did not in the past .something is going on . Definitely political assassination . Biden did kind of the same thing And he is the media darling . Meet the new boss , same as the old boss . Or maybe worse I guarantee that the next nomination running will be more progressive . And in this part of the state we a just along for the ride . So sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't .
  15. Join the club I skipper this morning .
  16. I bought a bunch of proos stuff from a guy . Included was 4 new in package auto stops I will never use if anyone is interested . When I get home I will post the directions .
  17. Down by the bridge or upstream of me? My boat is going up for sale this week sometime .
  18. I bass and pike fish the crap out of that creek from my cottage down , and I have never seen it . But I'm not saying it's not there
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