totally agree !! the esterous cycle is close that date every year. you see uptick in activity based on weather , moonphase , available forage. the younger bucks feeling it for the first time are moving first during daylight is what i witness . when the does are ready the older bucks spill over into daylight . my son shot a nice 3 year old 8pt yesterday 11/16 cruising at 715 . his stomach was absolutly full of acorn matter , fuel for movement that morning . its the same every year i believe !! my opnion anyway