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I'm not in this dogfight, but it sounds like you two guys would love fishing together and swapping great big lies, LOL. Trouthunter, it's wonderful that you're offering to go fishing with him and use your boat and equipment, and I'm sending you a big o'l KUDOS! I started fishing Lake Michigan for salmon back in 77, and then started fishing it and Erie for walleye in 80, but stopped salmon fishing Lake Michigan a couple of years later. I still love fishing Erie, but I only get to go once a year if my oldest son wants to go. I have fishing in my blood, and my wife keeps telling me when I die, I'm coming back as a fish, LOL. I wish you guys many fun filled trips on the water!

I like those rules all good things to go by.

Using wet wipes over regular TP

How'd it go on Friday? Any luck and where? Thanks

Personally I despise I/Os . In your case ,they take up most of the prime real estate on the stern deck . They do not idle down for trolling ,hence the kicker and they constantly need maintenance. Stern heavy , which cause the boat to wander at slow speeds . The hull you're looking at is not exactly fishermen friendly, no toe kicks , poor quality, low resale value and a bad reputation. I'd rather own a 1980's 27' Tiara for about the same money and the value of that boat will not depreciate like the Bayliner/ Trophy.

Sorry bout the late report but here goes. left the dock at 6am. Ran to 125 fow off the pump house. temp was down 65-70. only ran 4 riggers/rods. I wont bore you with the circus that ensued but we were 6 for 8 by 7am. all told, went 13 for 18 by thee time we packed it in at 10:30 best was 145-150 fow 60-70 dn. couple uv's, glow frog, purple muffin took all the shots. mostly teenagers couple skippy bows.

When I take friends that are new to Lake Ontario, especially with kids and wives, I only run coppers as a last resort. Having them work rigger and diver rods is a much more enjoyable experience for them.

(Observe all safe boating rules) In addition, while out on the water, some things I would never do: - Be out there without a means of verbal communication. (cell, VHF, etc.) - Fish barefooted. - Ignore the clouds or fish in a thunderstorm. - Put the boat in reverse with downriggers/dipseys/planners deployed. - Leave unsecured lures around (i.e. on seats, floor or dash) - Travel with rigger weights unsecured (not hanging on riggers) - Deploy gear without helm secured. - Drop rigger weights into water when deploying them. - Allow rigger weights to swing in the air. (Especially while fighting a fish or reeling in line) - Deploy the port side rigger/dipsey while turning to port. (or vice versa) - Turn boat in the direction a fish is swimming while fighting it. - Point the rod at the fish. (always keep a bend in the rod) What has your experience taught you to never do?

Definitely not as good this morning . Started the same thing in the same area. Went 2 for 4 in first hr , then that was it . Didn't see the bait and fish like yesterday . Fished into 60 ft and out to 150 . Then East wind came up and rain was starting so I pulled and ran . I was the only boat out there . Water has dropped and the north launch dock is not submerged. Somebody should make a call to DEC

Greeted with the wind really blowing, like double the Windfinder Max prediction and once you reached about 100' of water(South wind) it was rocking pretty good. Lots of boats 100 to 150. Solo, so one rigger down only, with fixed cheater. Out to 150, turned back and at about 110 both spoons got hit. Small king on bottom spoon and medium brown on top.Green Jeans and Mag Hulk on top. It got a little calmer so started out again got to 165 and had gotten one wire dipsy out with Brads Super Plug, back 300,took a hit, 15# King. U turned back back and at 145 meat gets hit and takes mid teens laker. Then it calmed nicely, headed back noeth and at about 160 again Brads plug got crushed, after a pretty good run, leader between diver and board snaps! So 5 hookups, 4 landed. Just couldn't get out to where i thought the kings likely were. Never got the temp probe down, to rough. So fished 85 to 125 depth. Its not the "Oak", but it was a solid morning. Good luck

Have a 48 lb KING from Lake Ontario & a 24 lb Brown from Ontario caught many years ago but there are still giants out there.

I launch at Deans cove mostly but have launched at Long Point State park & Allan Truman park, as for Ontario Sodus Point is one & Oak Orchard is another I fish out of also Geneese River

My friend, I have one more question you go to Lake Ontario. Where do you launch your boat in? I like go for salmon trout. I caught 25 pounds salmon last year