The Atlantics on Huron are not self sustaining. They are a very fragile fish. I don't think they would do well in pen projects. Extremely poor return for the investment. Best chance might be to get rid of the Black River Dam and let them get up into the small headwaters in the adirondacks. In our lifetime this species may go extinct in the wild.
Level of disappointment at DEFCON level 5. Strapped climber to tree and noticed phone ringing. That can’t be good. Oh, it’s one of my colleagues......that definitely can’t be good.....oh you can’t work cause your sick? Ugh! Back to car, home to iron clothes and off to work to cover. Fgjjvcbbccbncv xsyhjvfddhjjbfguck!!! Deer in all the fields this morning giving me the middle hoof-finger.
It appears that lying has become commonplace. The trib guys said “we didn’t talk to the LOC folks”.....naw they just made the changes on their own....the funny thing is there are so few steelhead entered due to the high minimum size requirements for the derby, very few steelhead are actually killed. This is a stupid knee jerk reaction to some gum bumping by a select elite few. Time to send some emails.
No, your unused buck tag becomes a buck or doe tag for late season with bow or muzzleloader privilege. Read regulations, it does spell it out thou somewhat confusing. I asked a DEC officer and confirmed.
I could understand the DEC’s angst about pulling returns away from the golden goose-Salmon River and the needed egg allotment years ago but with salmon run protections in place on the Canadian tribs, we would have a plan B (Canadian fish) if Altmar is short eggs. Maybe this proposal needs to be revisited with the dismal west-end returns.
Salty13, there are multiple stories that cause steelhead mortality.....even stream fisherman. Your level of helpfulness in this discussion has run its course. Go find your waders and dust off your fly rod.
Lucky, I think the idea is with a five king limit, charter captains won't have to venture into steelhead water. Most king fishing takes place inside of 200', and their ain't many steelhead in that zone. Saves on the gas bill for the charter operator also. I am not saying there should not be some form of short- term tweaking of the regulations to help steelhead recover, but try to make it a win-win. The cuts have been in one direction for a couple of decades.
Dave, you are doing a lot of deflection to the DEC. The DEC would not be proposing these changes unless someone or group approached them. A lot of the charter captain angst towards the trib leadership group comes from the thought that one group of fishermen can effect another groups’ bottom line. Now the LOC has taken steelhead out as a fall division which means someone had to get in Dave Chilson’s ear. All groups would agree catching more and bigger fish is a good thing but it would be nice to see the evidence to back the changes. Why not make the changes temporary to study the effects of the new regulations? To preserve baitfish numbers and keep captains from having to target steelhead, why not increase the king creel limit back to 5 fish until bait rebounds? This needs further discussion in a bigger forum with a larger audience.