Sk8man

Can't be too sure of that because browns for example have traversed the canal for years. I have seen pics of huge browns caught by kids fishing for other species near Waterloo with bobber rigs and worms (10 pounds plus).

Nice work Bob and great you got your dad into some real nice fish.

One potential problem with the king stocking is that Seneca is hooked up to Cayuga and you wouldn't want to upset that fishery by migration there..

That is correct. I was referring to the complete life cycle when I mentioned the 15 years... it actually should have read 14 Plus years as that is what the Cornell University article I was referencing mentioned. It should also be noted that there are actually 19 species of lamprey and only two of which are thought to be found in NYS:the Sea Lamprey and the Silver Lamprey with the Sea Lamprey being the most common. Thanks for locating that article and chart Stinger I had seen it but apparently lost track of it.

Wonderful tribute and great pics. Quality people tend to have quality friends and this is a good example

The problem is a compound one as there is also a huge amount of sawbellies in the lake right now and dead ones were frequently spotted on the serface. Perhaps the reason the landlocks are becoming prevalent while lakers and browns are declining has to do with their particular habits and the differences between them. Lakers and browns spend much of their time on or near bottom and are probably more vulnerable to lamprey attacks.When the water warms the landlocks are most prevalent in the upper layer of the water column which may lessen their contact with the lamprey population. Lakers, browns and some rainbows do not seem to be as not as nomadic as the landlocks which seem to be constantly on the move throughout the water column. A few years ago Cayuga Lake was in trouble big time with the lampreys and now the fishing is very good there and healthy populations of numerous species are noted so if the lampricide treatments take place repeatedly and are successful (weather and water conditions are critical when carried out) and they treat the multiple hatching and staging areas of the ammocoetes conditions could improve....but it will take time. These adult lampreys may live for 15 years or more and they are only vulnerable to treatment when in the larval stage. I suspect that in addition to the major spawning areas such as Catherines or Dresden some of the small intermittent streams of which there are many along the lake and some that don't totally dry up in the summer may also be adding to the problem and they are not treated to my knowledge.

Geez Dennis I thought that was some young kid's head who looking backward and was having a bad hair day

You have the right idea Clark. Good luck

Just a suggestion: get a transducer mounting plate (e..g. Cabelas?) and use one of the existing holes in the transom and seal the other ( Only two holes necessary for the mounting plate). Seal around the inner edges of the mounting plate with marine silicone. Then you can play with the transducer locations to find the "sweet spot" and you can then mount future stuff on it too.

Hope all works out well for you Andy. I know how much you like getting after those perch and trout

Geez I thought that is all there is was or can be

Nice work Steve

All you need now is a pirate flag Dennis

Lookin good Matt

WTG Brian Good practice for the derby

I think this year the virus is a main culprit in reducing involvement so hopefully once this stuff gets under better control things may improve in terms of public participation. Probably a variety of factors have been involved in the decline since the 80's. Hopefully the lake will rebound to its previous status as well with time.

Maybe you should start your own cooking show Kev

Thanks Dennis.

I have done it for years using weakened rubber bands (out in the sun awhile) or the small hair rubber bands (even from outriggers)

In reviewing the comments on this thread a number of emotions are evoked regarding the willingness of fellow fishermen to share their own personal struggles and the importance of learning more constructive ways of adaptation and dealing with stress through sports such as fishing and hunting. The current Corona Virus situation although very tragic in so many ways has also offered some positives that might not be readily apparent from first glance, but may be a window into our culture and the importance of re-evaluating our own life situations. Many people have had an unusual amount of time away from the immediate stressors and pressures of their jobs, and the freight train pace of everyday life which can afford the opportunity to reflect on what is truly important in life. It also has allowed the opportunity to assess what may have been taken for granted along the way in our everyday life in this current culture of ours including the value of spending concentrated time with of family members, especially children, the importance of maintaining relationships with those folks we care about, the fact that there is a lot of good going on in the world from good people despite the depressing news accounts, and the fact that money doesn't buy everything including "happiness". I know I have gained an increased appreciation of the many liberties and personal freedoms curtailed by the current virus situation and just things such as shooting the bull with other fishermen at the launch ramps, shopping at stores without masks, and so many other facets of life that have been done without conscious thought for a lifetime. Lets hope that we can make the most of this unfortunate situation by being increasingly sensitive to and appreciative of those things that are important to us such as mutual respect for others and their opinions, presenting ourselves as good role models for the next generation, and taking full advantage of the good things life has to offer without taking them for granted. Life is short.