Ray4852

I made a lot of trips to the western basin of lake Erie Every year I fished off turtle creek for a week usually the middle part of May. I camped at turtle creek marina. I picked one week to fish in June off lorain. Stayed at a motor cycle camp. With two trips to Ohio every year I had enough walleye to fill my freezer for the year. By the time the fish came east. I had enough walleye fishing in me. The fishing in the eastern basin sucks compared to what you can catch in the western basin. I fished the central basin too off walnut creek. This is tough fishing here. You have to travel 7 miles out to find the fish. Fishing was a lot easier fishing off Erie or North East PA. Most of the time I went out 5 miles to the PA, NY border and found fish. It sure beats coming from Barcelona to fish the NY, PA border. Those were the good old days when gasoline was cheap. Now I stick with Seneca Lake. Its been about 10 years since I made a trip to Ohio to fish. Last time there we had to keep a close eye on our fishing gear. Theft was starting to get bad there.

We should have some good fishing on Seneca very soon. Once the full moon gets out of here and the thermocline sets up nicely. The fish will start hitting. Its to early to say Seneca is done for the year.

I blame the slow fishing on 3 things. Full Moon Major cold front At this time of year, thermocline is starting to set up.

The offshore inline boards with 3 hundred ft of copper work well with an optional 3 ounce snap weight.

It wouldn’t cost much to remove the two wood launch docks now, and put in two new floating launch docks. It makes no since to me to close the marina. First thing they should do is gut out the marina. Dredge it out and put in floating docks for the smaller boats and use wood docks for the bigger boats. The wall around the marina is still good yet. The longer we wait and delay this project we will never get anything done.

Last summer all campers had there chance to voice there opinions and concerns about the future of the park and marina. The meeting was with the people of the OPRHP at the park office. The people of OPRHP want to update the park roads and campground. I voice my concern about the marina first. I estimated it could cost up to 3 million to update the marina. I looked into their eyes and I could read their mind. It didn’t look good. 3 million is a lot of money to pour into an old outdated marina with only a few slip owners for the season. If we can get the launch ramp improved now its a start. The trout derby can still use the marina to have a weighing station. We still have the boat launch. Long term survival of this park is more important to update the campground and improve the park roads. The local elected officials don’t want state money poured into this park. They want a public grant to improve this park and marina. If it goes public, this park will loose all its history. We don’t want a big developer to come in and destroy the history of this park. I use this park about 45 days a year. I want the campground updated first. The slip owners of the marina have complained about this problem 20 years ago about the deplorable conditions in the marina. Why do you think people have been leaving this place. Every year the state could have updated the marina piece by piece. They don’t think like the little guy. All they do is spend money on stuff they don’t need.

I know gas is very expensive today. It cut into my fishing 60 percent. It cost me 100 dollars round trip just for my truck to fish Seneca. It cost more for the boat. I use to make two trips to Ohio every year to fish for walleye. High gas has stopped my trips there. I can afford the gas, I refuse to let my government and Big oil suck me dry. I love my fishing but I have a limit on how much I'm willing to pay to go fishing. It makes more since to me to put my money somewhere else till the gas comes down a little. To sell fish to help pay for gas is a can of worms. Your idea is to make money. If you are a fishing guide raise your price to take people out fishing. Its a lot cheaper now for a lot of people to fish with a guide than go out and buy your own equipment to go fishing. The sad thing about being a guide there’s no money in it to make a living. Just enough money to keep the boat going.

More money to be made selling boats, fishing tackle, campers and fishing lures. Anybody that wishes they could sell their catch is no sportsman.

People that catch fish with a hook sinker and fishing rod should not be allowed to sell their catch. Its a shame we have a few sportsman on this board that wish they could sell their catch if they could. Sports fishing was meant to have a good time. Take fishing vacations and enjoy fishing on your days off from work with your friends I think if some of you had a real job you would have a different attitude. New York State is one of 3 states left in the US, you can sell pan fish. I remember back in the early 80s when Reagan was president we were in a severe recession. ice fishing on Oneida lake was fantastic for big perch. You could go out and catch 100 nice 12 to 15 inch perch. Guys came up to me and bragged that they made more money sitting home collecting unemployment and fishing everyday plus selling their catch. In two years that fishery was fished out. We have the same problem on Seneca lake during the winter. Some guys go out catch there limit come in and go out and catch more. These guys sell their catch. This is not sportsmanship. New York is so liberal with everything they do. You figure some of these sports clubs could get together and push for a bill in our state government to stop pan fish sales

Never give out a perch report on these lakes. Most of them are a bunch of meat fisherman. The sad thing about them. A lot of them will sell their catch for money. If you want a lot of perch now. Fish lake Erie. Perch are easier to catch.

Have you ever tried fishing at night with a full moon. hang a light over the side of boat to draw up bait. Bait will never come up. Its the same when you troll during the daylight hours. Trout go deeper to look for deep bait. You can still catch fish but you have to work harder for them. New moon is the best time to fish up to the half phase.

I haven’t read the 145 pages of info yet. I will read later. That cable is not close to the barge. Its in 200' of water. If that’s the cable that comes from the barge its pretty darn long. What about the north, south and west sides of barge. I never hooked into any cables there. You might have seen me in the area. I have a Red lund boat. I haven’t been out there this year. When I’m out there I’m the only guy there. But I stay far away from the Barge.