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Well paid monkeys at that.....jk

Surface temp was 39, I am a jigger fisher and do not have the gear to tell the temp at any depths other than surface.....jk

Our salmon were deep, I thought that they were a shallow water fish, guess not, re 120 feet down.....jk

You bet it was a tough bite!!! No lakers, salmon only.....jk

I will be wearing a white ball capo with the name CLAM on it. I want to meet Pap and SK*man especially CHSK------ too Lets get together......jk

We all stand it the cold but once several years ago it was cold , real cold and windy and we got in early

"a place on the saw mill land over on the Oswegotchi River" Now I really have to get to meet you. That is is just a few miles from where I trap in NY. See you Sunday......jk

Weather permitting will see you there......jk

pheasantguide is that just a normal Swan, it looks small compared to what we see flying by? They seem much bigger, I am not much of a water fowl guy but a trapper and they seem a lot bigger, I see a flock occasionally of 50 to 70 in some of my beaver swamps......jk

A little off topic......Who all is going to the Watkins flea market next week? Would to meet up with you guys after it is over.....jk it has been great talking to you on this web site

Used to be a lot of FUN. People talking shooting and even getting a spike now and then. A 14 inch 6 pointer was good and an 16 inch 8 was great.....jk

Hay we have to get together next time I go east. Last time was on almost no notice......jk

Wow Pap that is sad to hear. I hardly ever hear a beagle on my trap line anymore. The last time might have been 4 years ago and I just stopped and listened, reminded me when I was a kid looking for the flash of brown running in front of the dogs. Back then the sporting magazines had dogs and beagles on the cover not deer with the modern monster antlers. We got pheasants in front of the dogs two and they were wild birds that ran a lot, seldom flew like the stockies do. Big changes in the sporting scene. Deer season my sisters and mom went out even with buckshot guns for the first drive. No tree stands, either drives or slow walk hunts if you didn't get included in a gang. After the first drive, everyone saw deer and it was fun, we ate big time, all sort of food was brought along then the woman folks usually went home and the drives started again. Maybe three drive was average on the first day........Now it is so expensive and secretive and all about antlers and the cost doesn't end here. People get those expensive deer sticks to eat and baloney and jerky. And the cost f mounts then was $25. We used to cut up a deer by ourselves into roast and chops and a little bit of grinds for spaghetti. Cost almost nothing but an hour of time. Changes are not always good......jk