HB2

I will say this , and I have been doing this a long time . Sometimes you get pushed to do be places you don't want to be . One boat will be headed one way and the other another and all of a sudden you are in a precarious place with nowhere to go. Especially with an inexperienced driver on any of the boats . You really have to look ahead and anticipate what other boats are doing .And even that will sometimes get you in trouble . More than once I have had to push it up to 6 MPH to get out of trouble because another boat cut in front of would not give space .

New ones are junk IMO . Much better options that might cost more , but maybe cheaper in the long run . Older ones were better A freind broke off second trip . That's not user error . It's kind of insulting to say that

I have been using mine for years . Never have they slipped down the line and mine slides on a 50 ft section of 30# big game . it can only be 2 things . Either the wrong tubing the arm pinches down on or the arm is bent and not putting enough pressure and pinching the line enough.

So there you have it , user error . Must be you guys don't know how to properly use downriggers . You trying to tell me when they tested these units they were not aware how abruptly they stop and what could happen ? Why not supply a snubber ? Big money in downrigger weights and new probes .

Herbie the heavy weight I used them for years

My neighbor told me he likes his depth raider . It was half the price . So I bought one . So far , I love it . And the 500$ I saved. Glaciers move faster the the old Proos I have on my boat . And I love them for it .

60 to 80 50 down

Did the Brown thing this morning after waiting out the rain and a western omelette . Rods were going right away . Landed about 12 to 15 , we lost track . Lost sone more . Had one king on the ripped out a bunch of line and flew out of the water . Glo frog again among others . Even got 2 on my slide diver with an Andy Reeker. 10 # 15 oz

Add another lost probe to cannon downriggers . This has become chronic . CDS, Cannon Downrigger Syndrome. . I personally know guys that have lost 7 probes to them . That's 7 probes at 400$ + , 7 weights at 40$ + and 7 releases at 10+ . And snaps and crimps . Add it up .

Are you using newer Cannon riggers?

We started in close ,75 ft . Good pic lots of bait . 2 hits in there on the same Glo Frog 85 down Got some Intel from west and decided to work out way out 160 ft, dipsy at 240 goes , Glo Frog on that . 15 # king Decided to put all Glo Frog stuff down . Had a 5 F Evil eye I doctored up to look like a Glo Frog . Let it out on my #5 Chinook diver. Wasn't out there 10 min . 17# king . Let it back out 10 minutes later it goes again . Another nature but gets into the rigger and broke off . Good Luck finding another one of those spoons . Then we had to leave . 2 for 5 hits .

Helmsman Spar Urethane

It's spoken for Thanks

The Smallmouth fishing is better east of the Genny and best from let's say Pulttneyville and Sodus east because of all the structure / bottom there . The Browns orient to the same things. And they stock more that area also . Why is it that it's always the stream guys who are the scapegoats for why the fishing may be bad a particular year ? I see pics of coolers and boards full of browns from lake guys all the time on here. When I fish the tribs I rarely see guys keeping fish . Almost all are C& R. Granted there are outlaws . So put it to bed already .

I also use 30# big game . It seems to work OK . When I first started using heavy line I used 40 # Mason mono. Cheap snagging line . It worked great . Probably because it was a larger diameter than good line of the same # test . $2.49 did 4 reels . Then at the end of the season I put I back on the spool and used it the next season . When the fleas showed up I put it back on. Never had a problem with it. Spend the money if you want , but you don't have to .

We had a great morning My son and I fished for browns Fished 80 to 110 Did about 20 hits landed I think 14 Riggers mostly . My neighbor Charlie Chick gave me a Downrigger rod his Dad made. So I had to use it . Parked it at 85 ft . We landed 10 of the 14 fish we caught on it . Some good vibes there . Glow frog was best . 3 good browns 5 or 6 2 year old kings I laker .the rest shakers. Last and biggest fish hit my diver and ripped out to 450 . My son was bringing the fish in and the reel locked up . I didn't know what to do so I hand lined it in from 250 while my son wrapped the line around the rod holder. What a fiasco. 18# king .

My neighbor , retired Capt and great fisherman Charlie Chick offered me some of his older electronics . This probe was in the box . He doesn't know if it works but I thought someone out there in LOU land might be in need . We don't know anything about it.

We all have days like today .More than I would like to admit. Mine wasnt much better . Some days they just don't want to hit. And you can't make them .

We fished 65 to 85 this morning We went 5 for 7. 3 small kings , a steelhead , and an almost board worthy brown . All riggers 60 to 70 . Frog was best

Maybe get some European style hinges and some Blum undermount soft close drawer slides . Maybe finish it with some Spar Urethane like Helmsman