Flea fishing line by sunline

[BRsnow]

Hi, I am not affiliated with Sunline but noticed when I was purchasing more line, they have a new flea line out. Their products are typically top notch, so wanted to mention it here.

BR

[13owhunter]

This stuff has been out for a couple of years now.  Its a good quality low stretch line but I dont think it is great for fleas.  Really didnt seem any more effective than 30# big game.  It is quite a bit thinner than big game which may not be a great comparison.  Big fan of sunline flouro......

[BRsnow]

Yes big game 30 breaks closer to 50lb, sunline breaks at advertised lbs, so really 20lb difference in the lines. I had no idea, just said new on website:-)

[HB2]

You can buy a bulk spool of big game for 9$ . Enough for a few reels. Works great . I think some of you guys just dream up ways to waste your money . 

[BRsnow]

3 minutes ago, HB2 said:

You can buy a bulk spool of big game for 9$ . Enough for a few reels. Works great . I think some of you guys just dream up ways to waste your money . 

It is fishing, all the money is wasted. Big game line is weird. 30 pound is actually 50, 20&25 both are the same 40lb breaking strength. We have caught kings to 42lbs on 17lb XL. With sunline, the 20lb actually breaks at 20, less stretch, easier to work with and smaller diameter. I would rather skimp elsewhere than line. But I also recently acquired a horse so my discretionary income might shrink.

[Sk8man]

The primary reason for using the 30 lb Big Game mono is related to the thinking that the increased diameter of it is thought to shed fleas or make them lesss able to adhere to the linewhich are a considerable problem on the Great Lakes and Finger Lakes among others it has basically nothing to do with the breaking strength of the line. Prior to the advent of the fleas in Lake Ontario for example many of us used 12 lb mono for king salmon. I  have used 30 lb Blood Run SeaFlee and Big Game 30 lb for years and although they both work somewhat when the fleas are really concentrated nothing repels them.  The spiny fleas are much easier to get off line than the fishhook variety though. The SeaFlee has quite a bit of stretch to it and has a slick coating which helps repel the fleas.

[HB2]

It's trolling line to negate the fleas . The cheaper line is actually bigger diameter which is what you want . 

 

I have a used the Walmart Zebco 1.69 line and never lost a fish . My tippet on the other hand is good quality mono or fluoro. 

 

If you are breaking anything more than 15#  , you either had a flaw in the line or you don't know how to play a fish .

[HB2]

When the fleas get real bad I have 2 combos with 150 ft of Zebco 50# . 

[BRsnow]

24 minutes ago, Sk8man said:

The primary reason for using the 30 lb Big Game mono is related to the thinking that the increased diameter of it is thought to shed fleas or make them lesss able to adhere to the linewhich are a considerable problem on the Great Lakes and Finger Lakes among others it has basically nothing to do with the breaking strength of the line. Prior to the advent of the fleas in Lake Ontario for example many of us used 12 lb mono for king salmon. I  have used 30 lb Blood Run SeaFlee and Big Game 30 lb for years and although they both work somewhat when the fleas are really concentrated nothing repels them.  The spiny fleas are much easier to get off line than the fishhook variety though. The SeaFlee has quite a bit of stretch to it and has a slick coating which helps repel the fleas.

Yes, I get it. Was responding to spending more on sunline. Lots of guys use 20&25 bug game and realize they are using a 40lb line. They just go off the label. Fishing is more fun when your line isn’t 2-3x the size of your fish:-)))

[HB2]

36 minutes ago, BRsnow said:

Yes, I get it. Was responding to spending more on sunline. Lots of guys use 20&25 bug game and realize they are using a 40lb line. They just go off the label. Fishing is more fun when your line isn’t 2-3x the size of your fish:-)))

That's a ridiculous statement . It's not the main line but the tippet that is the week point . When Im fly fishing , I don't go by the fly line or backing , I go with the tippet which could be 2# test . 

 

If it keeps the fleas off why should I care what the actual break strength is ?;

 

Back when I was the first guy on the lake ( or me and a guy in Pulaski ) to figure out that using bigger diameter line was the ticket , I heard the same more sporting crap back then . 

 

Waste your money if you want . Some guys feel they need the best   . I'm here to tell you you don't . It's not the arrow , it's the Indian . 

 

[BRsnow]

11 minutes ago, HB2 said:

That's a ridiculous statement . It's not the main line but the tippet that is the week point . When Im fly fishing , I don't go by the fly line or backing , I go with the tippet which could be 2# test . 

 

If it keeps the fleas off why should I care what the actual break strength is ?;

 

Back when I was the first guy on the lake ( or me and a guy in Pulaski ) to figure out that using bigger diameter line was the ticket , I heard the same more sporting crap back then . 

 

Waste your money if you want . Some guys feel they need the best   . I'm here to tell you you don't . It's not the arrow , it's the Indian . 

 

I think you caught up on a tree and missing the forest .

[chinook35]

43 minutes ago, BRsnow said:

I think you caught up on a tree and missing the forest .

HB2 is correct. The tippet ( leader) is the weakest link in your chain. I always patched in 150’ of 30# big game when the fleas showed up 

as far as normal main line , strength dictates the # test you use. If you are dragging a cut bait rig behind a 13” flasher , you will donate a lot of tackle to the lake gods if you go less than 20# line.  If you’re washing spoons you can get away with 12-15 # 

I have used 20# Ande for years on all my presentations. Saves a lot of work 

[BRsnow]

11 minutes ago, chinook35 said:

HB2 is correct. The tippet ( leader) is the weakest link in your chain. I always patched in 150’ of 30# big game when the fleas showed up 

as far as normal main line , strength dictates the # test you use. If you are dragging a cut bait rig behind a 13” flasher , you will donate a lot of tackle to the lake gods if you go less than 20# line.  If you’re washing spoons you can get away with 12-15 # 

I have used 20# Ande for years on all my presentations. Saves a lot of work 

You all totally missed what I wrote, you are responding to nothing I said. I am aware of tippets I fly fish here in Colorado all the time. I am also fortunate to have been able to fish Lake O in the good days with our largest being 42lbs, and we used 14lb Xt and 17lb XL. I do agree you should use line that matches the need. My point was I use 20lb sunline because it is actually 20lb line and pull 8" flashers with it. I used 14 and 16lb sunline as it actually is those lbs. My point is if you buy 20lb big game, it is actually over a 30lb line, and 30lb big game line breaks at just about 50lbs. So you are using crazy thick and strong line for 15-25lb fish. I totally get the need for larger diameter or wire during fleas. I was not addressing that at all. I was just sharing I noticed sunline has a flea line and shared it as it sounds like you all are having a rough year. I don't loss much gear, I have quality gear and a lot of experience. I also am out to enjoy it verse just fill the box. Had a great weekend, with Kings into the low 20's over the holiday weekend in SD. Only gear I lost was accidentally throwing a spoon over that wasn't hooked to the slide:-) Good fishing guys.