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I'd run a Falsher and fly off on side on a rigger and a Mag spoon off the other side. I'd reverse it on the dipsys and see what happens. Don't go with a pre determined amount of wire out cause if the fish aren't at that depth your kinda screwed from the get go. You can add meat off a rigger if the fish aren't taking your initial offerings. The reason I wouldn't start with the meat is because you want to vary your trolling speed running faster and covering more water when looking for the fish, and slowing down once you get on them to see what they want. Good luck Glen

Jekll, My post wasn't directed at you. What would make you think it was? A guy asked a question about running cooper in a pack and I answered it. I seen it all on the big lake over the years and since you brought it up there is a difference between a dipsy and copper. The angle of decent on a dipsy is greater than copper. You achieve the same depth with less line out. Now your statement regarding common sense being exercised isn't all that accurate. Running a dipsy out 350 ft is risky. When you take a fish that runs upwards of 30 lbs with a light drag setting, before he's done his first run he's out 600-700 ft. and you got to understand this and be willing to accept the fact theres a good chance he's going to get cut off in a pack and it ain't the other guys fault. Thats common sense. You got to look and think beyond the bow of the boat so to speak, in this type of situation. Gradyvt, In a pack of boats you have very limited mobility. There are times you got NO WHERE to go and if I got to make a choice between cutting somebody else off or take out a long copper running off a board 100-200 feet (and yes I see it all the time) off the side of the boat on the other side, it's bye bye copper. Of course this is all relative to the size of the pack and the size of the area thats holding the fish. Just use your best judgement and have fun out there. I posted my experiences to give you an idea of what to expect. Hope they help you out and you get your 30 lber. Glen

Yup. Size 8 I believe.

Ed if you are talking about a small barrel swivel for joining lines that will fit in your rods guides and the level wind on the reel the answere would be spro's. If you talking about a snap swivel for attaching lures there are a couple different brands that are good. spro being one and Sampo being another. Glen

A concentration of fish in a small area is what causes a pack in the first place. If you get 50 + boats working the same area and they where all running cooper and boards just think of how much fun that would be with every boat taking up a very large area of water. NOBODY IS SPECIAL OUT THERE. Everybody has the same right to fish that water. And there are all skill levels and experience packed in to the same water. If you decide to run 300, 400,500 or 600 feet of line off the back of your boat or boards, it is your responsibility to keep it out of the way. Not the other 50 or so boats responsibility to give you your own quarter mile of water, period. People were catching plenty of fish before the copper fad and you can catch your share without it now. People need to exercise some common sense in a pack. There is no fish in the lake thats worth being an a_ _ hole over. And another thing. Just becasue you got 300 feet of line on your planner board reels don't mean you got to use it all. Go find your own fish out of the pack if thats the way you want to fish. They are out there just need to work a little bit and find them. Rant over. Glen

That really sucks but thank god it wasn't worse. Speedy recovery. Glen

Hope that good fsihing continues for you out west buddy. Just send a few out east will ya? Yup,we do plenty of C&R as well. Just love catching them. Glen

Nice job Todd. Glen

If the fish are in the area the evening bite can be very good. Stick it out until dark if you can. Glen

Very sorry to hear of your incident BP. Hope somebody can ID this clown. Glen

Well seriously Tim are you kidding? Last year at Oswego we moved from the lower middle of the pack to take a second place in the proam just 6 points out of first because most everybody was Brown trout fishing and on day two I knew I had to find Salmpon to win it. We did and just missed the win. Had I not known where we stood in the standings I would have continued to fish Browns as they where plentiful and had to rely on luck to do well. Somebody else would have been cashing the check. Sounds like you are talking about a one big fish derby. Completlely different ball game. No strategy just luck. Don't play the dead fish thing with me. I kill fish every weekend (or try to) as people do actually eat them. Can't tell you how many "estimated" 25+ lb Salmon I've heard about on the radio during the spring LOC that didn't make the 20 lb limit once it was hung on the scale. As far as my post goes, a guy asked a question....I answered it. Good fishing. Glen

You answered your own question howitzer. To announce your weight over the radio, lets the other guys know what they need to beat you. Not a very smart strategy as most guys enter a tournament to try and win it. Glen

Sounds like a great start to your retiremnet. Congratulations Glen

Happy Birthday Todd. Nice job in the LSRC. Glen

Oh really. I can't tell you how many fish I've taken out of temp. Way out of temp. Fish that I wouldn't have caught if I restricted myself to only fishing temp. These fish are usually up there feeding and are active fish. A good graph and knowing how to read it is far more valuable than a temp unit. Pauls advice is spot on and by the way it's coming from a guy who makes his living on the water with many many years on the lake. He's caught more fish than most guys have ever seen. He won't give you advice based on an isolated incident or two but based on years of experience and success. You make the call. Good luck. Glen

I run a big snap swivel off my main line and attach the snap swivel from the spin doctor to it. (2 big snap swivels) You got to get some big duo snaps to attach to the bottom swivel on the doctor. I know. For what they cost they should come with them. They don't. I also been running some snaps that come with a cork screw. Can't remember who makes them but they been working out good on the bottom of the spin doctors. Pretty sure if you go to the Spin Doctor website they have them. Glen

22 ft per 100 at 2.2 mph drgging a flasher and fly. Deeper with a spoon and shallower the faster you go. Also copper will sink like a rock on inside turns. Glen

Cool. Now we can't go and fish for the fish we stock. Glen

As of last Sunday the majority of the Browns were west of the plant. Warm water in the Bay and the few fish that were still in there were from 40 ft down, 60 fow and deeper. Anybody that tells you there are enough Kings to fish is hallucinating. At least as of last Sunday. Glen

5 foot booms off the sides would help. Avoid sharp turns and you will be fine. Don't run all four, or two next to each other at the same depth. I used to run a four attractor program off 4 riggers out of a 17 1/2 foot Starcraft fishmaster without problems. Do not raise or lower your riggers while on a turn and avoid releasing lines to change lures while on a turn. Glen

Not a thing wrong with running two rods. Go for it. But if three won't help you catch more fish then maybe you should buy some golf clubs. Glen

Not sure I want to worry about what county I'm in while on the water. My vote is leave as it is. Glen

Nice!!!! Glen

If I had to buy again I would buy Otter Boats. Very stable in rough water. I have to take the keels off for storage but it's worth it. Glen

Call them.