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  1. They report a 27" girth on the fish. With a 10" blade the hole is 10" x 3.14 (pi)= 31.4" circumference, so I imagine there were some anxious moments at landing! It also means I could probably get away with a 6" blade when I go ice fishing for Lake Trout around here.
  2. His "young boys" are 14 and 16, and should be capable of handling a canoe with proper instruction, and if it has capacity for three. But it always a wise decision to scout new flowing water before boating it, and make some decisions on where to float and where to line or carry.
  3. I have since seen that, and, yes, it will be a real hit to the brook trout ponds in the mountains. It will mean additional fish in some waters that are already infected with mussels, but I doubt DEC would truck fish that far, or stock them into the upper river as I have heard nothing of mussels above Letchworth (they could theoretically be below Letchworth due to impact from Conesus outlet and Hemlock outlet). But Jimski used the plural (hatchery closures), and I have only heard about Rome. It does kind of point out the need for some redundancy in raising sites, and if they can't clean up Rome or get away from the Delta Lake water source, maybe that become a new "Caledonia for Kings", but I'm not sure where they could put more brook trout culture. And kings raised in Rome are not going to be looking for west end water although they won't be imprinted on the Salmon River. Who knows, they could end up attempting to get to the Hudson and the NYC and NJ guys would not have to travel so far they could troll the East River!(Totally tongue in cheek!)
  4. Stay above Wellsville, or even Belmont, and there are lot of trout, some good ones. Downstream to Portageville is great smallmouth water. Below that you're into Letchworth and although Region 9 has that section included in their diary program, I have no idea how you would access it. Hatchery closures?
  5. There are quite a few places in the Adirondacks where your cell phone will be useless, although there are more towers every year. That is one of the attractions of the Moose River Plains, you can get back in quite a distance on the network of old roads. In any spot on the east coast, it is difficult to guarantee lots of fish or big fish, unless you want to camp out on a charter boat in Lake Ontario, which could get a little pricey for three days!
  6. They might be great places to camp and fish, but I think you might be speeding if you could get to either of those spots in 6 hours from Rochester NY!
  7. Lots of variables: Primitive camping where you haul or filter your water, and maybe have an outhouse or dig your own catholes, or a less primitive facility where there are bathrooms and showers, but also more neighbors and some 4 legged ones possible (bears); level of fishing experience of you or the kids; additional equipment you have or might have to get, like waders if you want to stream fish, etc; tent or do you have a pop-up or RV, just for starters. For a primitive experience that time of the year, I like the Moose River Plains in the western Adirondacks, you can fish the Moose River and the road holes on tributaries, or hike to many of the ponds. The fishing is fair from shore, if you can cast far enough and are patient and they start biting you can catch some nice brookies. However, you are 10-15 miles in from anything so you have to bring it all, water included, and washing equipment as it is outhouses only (and I recommend bringing some lime to " sweeten" them up), and as it is a 15 mph speed limit dirt road, high clearance on the vehicle is a good idea. There is no fee to use this area but you will need to get a permit via mail from the local ranger for a stay of more than three nights. For a less rigorous experience where you can access shopping or food, Nick's Lake outside of Old Forge is popular, and the lake is two story, so while there are trout, there are also bass and panfish. There may be canoe rentals available as well. Eighth Lake is good, although shore fishing by the campground is limited, there are spots if you hike up the lake and a trail to Bug and Eagles Nest lakes, which are trout ponds. If you want to try stream fishing, the other side of the mountains features the West Branch of the Ausable River, possibly the best trout stream east of the Rockies, and, while a lot of the anglers frequent the boulder sections which are very slick and slippery, and flyfish, there are some more placid stretches that are less difficult to wade or can be fished from shore, and I know a lot of folks who do very well on inline spinners and smaller minnow plugs, and the Lake Everest section above the Wilmington Dam produces some large fish to crawler fishing. There is a large private camping facility or the State campground, both right on the river, and it is not too far to Lake Placid or other spots if you need another activity on a rainy day. If trout and a forested area are not a priority, the campground at Fairhaven allows you to fish on the Lake Ontario side off the pier or in the pond, and there are panfish, bass, and pike, lots of spots to shore fish. My dad took my brothers and me there when we were kids (a century or so ago LOL!) and we always caught some fish, but I know people who are out there all the time still because they can catch lots of large pannies in the pond. If you already have an idea of where you want to camp and it is in NYS, go to the DEC website fishing page and check out the Places to Fish page for the county of your choice and sites near to where you want to be will be featured. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/7749.html
  8. There is a fish called redfin shiner that is native. This may have been sold as bait at one time before the limited list was published. http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/26014.html The rudd has been around for quite some time as well, but is introduced. On the map,.ir is showing in Conesus, Hemlock, and Silver. http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/94481.html
  9. The Eastern Basin numbers had grown exponentially before the gobies were established , and the DEC research on "pellets" indicated they were putting a dent in the yellow perch and smallmouth bass numbers up there, from Mexico Bay north and up into the SLR. At this time their diet is dominated by gobies, but it was the damage to the warm water fishery that persuaded USF+WS to allow DEC to start control measures up there.
  10. It is my understanding that a lot of the western LO cormorants showed up right around the same time that the fishery collapsed on Lake Huron. It is not a great distance from the Georgian Bay to LO "as the crow flies." These birds did not build in numbers gradually, they showed up as good size flocks off Snyder's Island in Irondequoit Bay, out in Braddocks, and along the Monroe County LO shoreline feeding on nearshore baitfish in late summer one year,( and possibly at locations further west, but I was not out there) and then were back in numbers every summer since. They have only started nesting recently. I spoke with Web Persall (Region 8 Fisheries Manager) about control on IBay soon after they arrived, and while he sympathized with our concerns for water and shoreline vegetation quality, and the damages caused to docked boats ,especially at the Fish and Game Club, he said his hands were tied until it could be documented that the birds were nesting locally, and the DEC people who were looking for that had found no indications.
  11. Sorry, Jerry, you lost me there, I was referring to the flooding of the subway systems, fairly recently. If people really thought in those terms of possible high water, we'd all be living south of Ridge Road.
  12. Don't you mean "again." The subways flooded on a Nor'easter a few years back.
  13. I'll take you fishing in August for the Skamania versions if you think that is a rusthead! You'll catch them all day on dry flies! Fallfish.
  14. Maybe for same reason that the Kardashians are everywhere on the internet, and Stormy Daniels was out there getting indignant about the Prez! And, enough hits, there be some money there! There is a reason it is called Fishporn!
  15. So based on your analysis, all the pheasants in NYS were along RR tracks. One of the best Pheasant areas in NYS was (and still is) around Livonia, New York, and south on both sides of Conesus Lake and down into the WMA at the South end. There is a RR spur that goes to Lakeville, that's about it. You were basically shooting opportunistic birds that were concentrated by the artificial feed situation, when it went so did they. But the overall decline of the pheasant in NY is laid by the SCIENTISTS at the feet of changed agricultural practices. It must be something to do with drinking GL water, this total rejection of anything that originates with a DEC Biologist.
  16. So, are you at least in part responsible for the apparently prevailing attitude that red lights, stop signs, and double yellow lines are mere suggestions? Sorry, I could not resist!
  17. Actually, according to a well vetted study conducted over 20 years ago by Bruce Penrod of NYSDEC, the change in mowing practice from 2 cuttings per season to 3 cuttings per season was the greatest negative for the (introduced, not native) Ring Necked Pheasant populations of NYS. The Hens could get a clutch of eggs hatched, but the mower would come through and break up the nest and kill the baby birds before they were old enough to get out of the field with Momma, and even though she would start another nest each time the mower would return until there was not enough good weather remaining to have the young able to survive the winter. Habitat loss was also a great contributor; the birds needed corn or other grain for a food source, Timothy or sawgrass for nesting, and cattail for winter shelter all in close proximity, but a lot of rural land in " Gentleman" farmsteads just sits and grows Queen Anne's Lace and Goldenrod anymore.
  18. I think if an Encon Officer observed that action, you could get ticketed. While a bucket of corn is not a lot, it could " contribute" to a depletion of dissolved oxygen in the water, as it is an organic waste and has a lot of sugar associated with it. En Con Law: § 17-0501. General prohibition against pollution. 1. It shall be unlawful for any person, directly or indirectly, to throw, drain, run or otherwise discharge into such waters organic or inorganic matter that shall cause or contribute to a condition in contravention of the standards adopted by the department pursuant to section 17-0301. There is probably a citation in terms of littering as well.
  19. ??????? Caledonia has not closed, and it is in use for raising Brown Trout. From the DEC Website: "Caledonia Hatchery (585-538-6300) located in Livingston County in the Village of Caledonia, is the oldest hatchery in New York State and the Western Hemisphere. Caledonia Hatchery rears brown trout and rainbow trout. Virtually all of the two-year-old brown trout used in DEC's stocking program for 13-15 inch trout are produced at Caledonia Hatchery. Annual production is approximately 170,000 pounds." It is my understanding that the rainbows referred to here are actually raised in Cedar Springs due to the whirling Disease that is in Sprng Creek now, but Cedar Springs is just lumped in with Caledonia due to joint staffing and proximity, Cedar Springs is a couple of miles from Caledonia. The usual beef from the West End Charter fleet is that the State should be raising kings in Caledonia and screw the inland fishermen's needs for bigger brown trout. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/7742.html While I would agree that additional Brown Trout stocking would be the least likely to impact the alewife population because the Browns are more benthic oriented and appear to be feeding more on Gobies at this point, I don't think DEC will increase stocking of any predator until the alewife population has stabilized and increased, as measured in the long running trawl program.
  20. You are a poacher if you ignore the Conservation laws to harvest your fish and game, whether you make money off it or not..
  21. If you are referring to Cedar Springs, it was in use for raising Rainbows (Spring Creek is not able to be used for this because of Whirling Disease), and if you have not seen it take a look on an Aerial photo sight to get sense of how small it is. And Ancient as well.
  22. Capacity is determined by whatever limits production so whether it is lack of raceway space or water issues, they are at capacity. Kind of like amount of food limits what you can grow in a pasture regardless of how big the pasture is.
  23. Spreading corn near you tree stand is baiting in NYS, and if they get caught, they get ticketed. Setting your tree stand on the edge of a cornfield is just smart hunting if you have legal access to one.
  24. Can you name a hatchery that has capacity hat is not being used. It is my sense that they are pretty much running full bore.
  25. I agree totally, especially as there is a drop off nearshore, but you can get more range than a shore caster with the yak, and if it does get squirrely, you are very close to your take out, and could still cast from shore or the pier after you get out.
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