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From NYSDEC newsletter: Looks like DEC is dsoing the job. Maybe Albion court needs a KIta. (Kick in the A$$)

Personally , I think this is BS question. The problem as I see it with a lot of this Gov assistance is it is enabling people to seek the assistance instead of pulling themselves up by their bootstraps . And bleeding hearts perpetuate it . Yes some are truly in need of it but there are an awfull lot that use it as a means to survive so they don't have to work. And I have seen this with my own eyes . I have friends that hate Trump . Blame him for a lot of what is their own decision making for many years . Spent their money on frivolous stuff with no thought of the future . The US is supposed to be the land of opportunity, not the land of equity we are turning into . All men are created equal . But that changes as their lives go on . Work hard , be smart and with some luck you can have a better life than those who choose not to .

Without outing anyone, I have had numerous LOU folks fish with me that are the polar opposite of me regarding politics. Some even sport bumper stickers lol (Bob). Humanity isn’t divided by political views. That being said the “tolerant” side is much more prone to not wanting to break bread or lend a hand with those that don’t share their perspective.

I will be in Victor next Monday-Wednesday for work, I'll take em.

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HB2; So if you have a relative, a neighbor or a stranger that needs a helping hand or a meal, would you lend a hand, offer a meal (or a fish) whether you know or don't know who they voted for, where they came from, what their faith is or isn't, what their net worth is or what their zip code is.?

The mass exodus from NYS has been going on since Mario Cuomo . He tried to tax the hell out of businesses in NY . The Cariolinas said come on down boys and we won't tax you for 10 years , and low and behold , amazingly , they left. My son lives in NC and I'm amazed at the amount of money and growth there is there. Property tax is 1/10 of what it is here . So you can't blame Trump for the woes of NY State . And now we have a commie telling the public the man is keeping you down and owes you free everything . And we are a sanctuary state housing , feeding and paying illegals. Just think how far that 8 billion Kathy sent as a bail out to NYC would go upstate . More cops , teachers , Game Wardens for a few . The state is circling the drain . And Kathy is at the helm , siding and paling up to a commie. So why not vote for a new Gov . What have we got to loose ?

Many of the state cutbacks are actually a TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT due the current administration's poorly thought out Federal program terminations and cutbacks in favor of corporate greed and power. A lot of this is because we have too much corporate entanglement of the federal government on both sides of the aisle, in Washington as well as in the States. DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS MUST WORK TOGETHER TAKE OUR FEDERAL AND STATE HOUSES BACK, BY TELLING OUR LEADERS TO WORK FOR ALL OF US, AND/OR BY ELECTING NEW LEADERS TO WORK FOR US ALL INSTEAD OF THEMSELVES AND THE BILLIONAIRE CLASS. Many of the DECs programs rely on Federal funds that come from multiple federal programs. They also rely on cooperative partnerships with many of those federal agencies. Starting with DOGE and continuing with direct cuts from the Whitehouse, many of the programs that support those efforts were cut, along with Fed funds to support the state(s) efforts toward those programs. So, for many of the programs, if the Feds stop providing fiscal and/or logistical support for them, the State is unable to continue or fully support them. This is true for water, air, wildlife, health, disaster and all other major life support issues. Malevolent corporate greed has been slowly changing the narrative away from these issues in favor of wall street. Wall street investors have been tripping over themselves trying to grab up pieces of the Crypto and AI waves that have yet to (and may never) acquire a steady footing. Meanwhile, AI companies and Wall Street investors are scrambling to stay ahead of the game without causing any major corrections digital wildfires or societal meltdown. These are things that can only be effectively dealt with at the federal level. BUT WE NEED HOUSE AND SENATE RULES REPAIRS. NAMELY LOBBYING AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. WITHOUT THAT, OUR DEMOCRACY WILL WHITHER AWAY.

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~2027 NYS Winter Classic Tournament~ This year's event will once again feature the following prizes to go after: Overall Grand Slam Champion Awards (Adult and Youth winners) Top-3 Cash Awards (for all 7 main species divisions) Top-3 Bass Cash Awards Additional Species Trophy Awards Priority Baits Largest Fish Award Weekly Cash Awards (for the largest fish entered in all 7 main species divisions) Mystery Size Awards (for all 7 main species divisions) Youth Achievement Crystal Awards (top male and female anglers in all 7 main species categories) Door Prizes, Giveaways, Raffles & Sponsored Goods (pre-tourney promos and at the awards ceremony) Current Event Sponsors include: Batavia Downs Casino, HT Ent., Addicted Fishing, Finders Keepers Sportfishing, O More Cast, Butternut Cove Cottages, Priority Baits, Savage Gear, Reel Cool Lures, Koyote Ugly Spoons, Meegs Lures, Mad River Sports, Green Mt. Sporting Supplies, Kahtoola, Automatic Fisherman, Fish Donkey, Lake Ontario United Early Bird registration for the 2027 NYS Winter Classic Tournament continues until Dec. 1st - get registered before Dec. 1st and get entered into the Early Bird Registration Drawings, the 12 Days of Christmas Giveaway Drawings, and the Kick-Off Door Prize Drawings! Winners will be drawn during the online LIVE shows hosted on the tourney Facebook page starting Dec. 1st: https://www.facebook.com/NYSWinterClassic Details for this year's event (prizes, sponsors, rules & regs, etc.) can be found online at the tourney website: NYSwinterclassic.com Register today at: https://tourney.fishdonkey.com/#/tournament/20606/details This year's awards ceremony will be held at the Batavia Downs Casino Resort on March 13th starting at 2pm. Attendance is optional for all anglers except the Grand Slam winners. If you have any questions about the event, drop me a PM here on LOU or text me at (585) 330-0494. More to come - stay tuned!! Good luck to everyone this winter and FISH ON!! Tim Thomas NYS Classic Events Director

The 287(g) and hochul should both be put where the sun don’t shine

I can respect that answer I've been a registered Republican since 18 years old but I have voted Democrat

I changed my affiliation to an Independent probably 10 years ago. I vote for the candidate that is best for the country at that time.

I give you credit you're the first Democrat to advocate for a change for the dec and Lake Ontario. all year long debate after debate complaining about how to fix Lake Ontario and make bigger fish but no one is advocating for a change in the governor's race.

Yes, that would represent a different direction (and I hate Trump).

So are you saying Bruce Blakeman would be better for governor for a better Dec and lake Ontario

Yes, Apple moved to California to avoid taxes. In fact California is the only state with more billionaires than NY. If pay or compensation, then they'd be subject to personal taxes. (which they are not.)

I agree that the fall fishing for king salmon in NY is just a thug fest. Couple of things I know are true. There is natural reproduction in every south shore trib that maintains even low glows. I can show you the wild fish in every local trib in the spring. There are study’s that were done years ago that proved it. One was a shore line netting event off our Sandy creek DEC recovered lots of wild smolts. Fishing the Oak in March all I have to do is look behind my footsteps and I have schools of wild kings eating the invertebrates I’m kicking up. Right now there is a huge return to Irondequoit creek. They’ve never been stocked there. Are they strays from the genny. Probably some but we now have proof Irondequoit has habitat to raise wild browns and also steelhead. The reason kings can and do survive dozens of other streams besides the Salmon River is these fry are hatched in February and March and leave the streams in April and early May before those waters become lethal. the Hatchery once again has easily achieved their egg take. In the spring DEC runs a two month seining study on the salmon river. They capture between 7 to 20 million successfully hatched par. The event starts early April and runs to the end of May. You could never have the lake fishing success that’s going on without a huge influx of wild fish. The Genny is loaded right now like I haven’t seen in a long time. We’ve had several colder long springs lately that keep stream temps down longer and is allowing greater escapement of par and smolts to the lake. if we never stocked another salmon. They are here forever. Now the only way to curb the thuggery is to get to the state legislature and try and get stiffer penalties. DEC makes regulations not penalties. I’ve spent over 25 years fishing and traveling in Alaska. Now Alaska does have lining and netting of salmon for indigenous and Alaskan citizens but if you break the laws there you are going to jail. Same for Canada and many of our western states. I see all the disgusting posts on line of the law breakers. Some ahole talked about he and his crew hooking 300 salmon. I talked to CO’s the past two weeks. Of course they are overwhelmed but are still trying to do their best. There were three officers down on the Genny last week. The cool thing about the Genny is everyone was fishing legal float fishing with bait or beads. Hopefully they all had licenses. Last week I saw this group of “Eastern Europeans” catch about a 20” steelhead. It was their intention to kill that fish. I climbed out of the river and told them the fish wasn’t legal. Of course they didn’t know the steelhead regs but when I conned them in that there were three cops up in the parking lot and once they walked out with this dink on a stringer they better have $250 in cash on hand. They quickly put the fish back. The answer isn’t to shut down the river. The DEC will shut down the fly zone in low water which gets the fish to beaver dam Brook. If you don’t know, thousands of kings move all night long and make their way to the hatchery, Night poachers. DEC is now using drones with night vision cameras and have arrested several people illegally fishing after dark. It is disgusting what goes on but it’s going on at 18 mile. The Oak, Oswego, the black river, Irondequoit. I was at Sandy yesterday catching migratory brown trout. The four or five guys I ran into had enough weight on their rods to anchor the Yankee Troller. I took the time to rerig their rods. Gave them flies I was catching fish on and recited the regs for stream trout and salmon. Unfortunately it’s education to a few at a time. I love to swing streamers for kings. And I know many others that fish legally and ethically for salmon. The answer isn’t to punish everyone. We could organize as concerned anglers and get time with DEC and our elected officials. Snagging, lining flossing lifting is illegal. It’s also stealing our resources. I’m happy to get involved. Who else is?