Sk8man

Yes and even the way you tie the knot can make a difference. For example a loop knot gives a different action than one that is tightened up. All of what has been said is a good reason to check out your lures when you put them in the water rather than making assumptions.

Been doing business with them since the early eighties or before. Their catalog has a lot more items than the website by the way..

Yep Don. another option that I sometimes use with stick baits (and also for ice fishing jigging) are these: https://www.jannsnetcraft.com/fly-fishing-accessories/810960.aspx (Used in conjunction with a #8 Spro barrel swivel 3 ft up from it)

This is a real good point. Some spoons are designed to run with and some without part of it depending on weight considerations and another being either accenting or dampening of side to side motion. A solid ring on light spoons such as Sutton flutter weight spoons allow the snap of the swivel to travel freely without nesting in the groove of the split ring and thus giving it a different action. Split rings having a pronounced groove where the rings come together are more prone to restricting the range of motion of the spoon. Spoons without a split ring are pretty much subject only to the swivel used and cheap non ball bearing type will impart a different action than the more free revolving ball bearing type. Some spoons seem to run better without either as do some stickbaits using just a rounded snap such as the Duo Lock with a small barrel swivel a few feet up the line or leader.The potential drawback is that at higher speeds you may get line twist.

It should also be noted that going through the ice can happen to anyone regardless of experience or skill level. Ice that may have been safe the day before may have changed overnight or even while out on it early on or late in the season. The use of bubblers by cottage owners and marinas etc. has further stepped up the danger because the currents generated by them can travel hundreds of yards under the ice away from the bubbler itself. Another common hazard is when there is open water somewhere on a lake or pond. It can be very far away and yet influences the quality of the ice as the wind can push the water and get it moving under the ice eroding it a long away from the edge. Often I see people fishing the edge of the ice near open water and it is about the most dangerous area to be on. There can also be running streams at the periphery of lakes that deteriorate the ice, gas pockets, and places where geese and ducks may have opened up that then froze over and are much thinner than the surrounding ice. It goes on and on but stupid or naive people certainly add to the problem. The bottom line is that no matter how experienced or knowledgeable you are you are always taking some degree of risk standing on frozen water. The trick is to minimize that degree of risk while out there. Often one of the most dangerous part of it is going out or coming back in as the shore ice is always a question mark for many reasons and it can change in minutes or hours..

Usually the military will recover a downed aircraft regardless of mission if possible. I had a ride in one of those (T-33 trainer) in 1965 in Germany

Wow! I haven't seen that many bunnies in years. Must not be any Yotes nearby where you were hunting.

Nice work Dave

I got your response so you got it right

Jerry I sent you a detailed reply by personal message earlier today

Still going...after a couple hundred pages i had to take a break from it but need to get back to it. The pics will take some more time. Thanks for asking Lucky

Jerry you have a PM