Sk8man

Usually the military will recover a downed aircraft regardless of mission if possible. I had a ride in one of those (T-33 trainer) in 1965 in Germany

Wow! I haven't seen that many bunnies in years. Must not be any Yotes nearby where you were hunting.

Nice work Dave

I got your response so you got it right

Jerry I sent you a detailed reply by personal message earlier today

Still going...after a couple hundred pages i had to take a break from it but need to get back to it. The pics will take some more time. Thanks for asking Lucky

Jerry you have a PM

Although the Finger Lakes have similarities they also have important differences as well. It could prove helpful to mention the particular lake (s) you are interested in and the particular species and what specific setups you have or intend to use.

You've got me on that one Mark

Here is my four setup (but fishing solo)

My two rigger setup is nearly exactly as that pictured in Bill's setup above. Then two more recessed holders in front of that one on either side. As Bill said the base has to be solid. Tip: cut a hole in a tennis ball to cover the end of the tube of the gimbal to store when not in use as they have sharp edges that could accidentally gouge your boat interior.

Make sure the flush mounts are stainless and the sturdiest you can get. With that said I've used gimbal mounts for electric Cannons with extendable booms for 18 years and they are still like new. I had the factory Whaler ones installed when I bought the boat and they are rugged. Gimbals are made in at least two configurations and sizes; one straight down into the flush mount and another (which I have) that goes at angle (30 degrees I think) toward the bow in the inset holder. You want the right height on the tube of the gimbal because if too short the horizontal the gimbal won't seat properly on the horizontal pin of the flush mount securing it. I have a set of the Cannon gimbals and 5 universal gimbals which have many more possible mounting holes (already tapped for screws). The Cannon fit mine a little different than the universals which I prefer for my use.I have 6 Cannon rod holders mounted in two 18 inch Cannon tracks. Normally I run just two downriggers but I have 4 inset rod holders and sometimes run 4 riggers. It is essential therefore to have the inset rod holders spaced far enough apart to avoid conflicts when swiveling etc.The gimbals will sit a couple inches up off the gunwales in most cases - not flat so they do have some torque on them (less so with unitrolls) but it does help get the rod butts further from the gunwales too which is good. Typically I run the two downriggers off the rear of the gunwales and mount the 6 rod holders in the front recessed holders 3 per side. Pros: flexibility of boat use (in summer take off fishing stuff for joy rides with family) and storage (security) as they can be taken off and on very easily. No additional holes drilled in the gunwales or transom. Can use the flush mounts for other things or other rod holders. I use mine sometimes for Seth Greens with different rod holders. Cons: They are not as stable as those actually mounted on the gunwale and have a degree of torque but so far that hasn't been any problem with mine. Holes in the gunwales.