sherman brown

my recommendation to any new guy on the big water take a charter before even thinking about trying it on their own., i started fishing the big water of lake michigan for salmon. we didnt catch a lot and didnt have a marine radio. then we went out on a trash bag charter. i'll admit the water was a little rough but we were fishing the harbor in the fall. there was 4 of us on the charter. and the caption started out with 2 rods with j-plugs. every other boat around us looked like up side down spiders they had so many rods in the water. and they were catching fish, about 1:00 pm and 2 fish in the boat he added 2 more rods. man that was the sickest i had ever been. we came in and that was that. but i learned a lot from him and the boats on the radio. we moved to the western basin of erie and drift fished. we got limits just sbout every trip until we didnt. then we trolled and still got limits just about every trip. i had wanted to fish the central basin but was always a little afraid. then a guy i worked with bought a boat off a charter capt. then my friend asked if i wanted to go out on a charter with him. i said yes i sure would. we learned so much from him. then we went up to fish on our own. but i chartered him out our 1st day. by mid day the 2nd day we was running the rods putting out dipsies we was doing it all after 2 days of school. this guy really taught us more than i could have learned in yrs on my own. i dont know what happened to the lake michigan caption. for some reason he didnt like us from the start. but after those 2 days on erie i was running my boat with 3 dipsies per side plus a downrigger per side. now we did get a tangle now and then but now its rare.

with that boat i dont think a kicker weight will be that much of a problem. but if it is just add a set of electric trim tabs. they will level the boat and will give you a much better ride in rough water. if i stayed out and let the water get a little to rough i could lower my trim tabs and run 10 mph faster than i ran without them.

i'm in the process of mounting a 9.9 merc four stroke to a 26' boat i just bought. it is remote controls which i think is better than tiller controls. it doesnt have power trim so what i'm doing is using a panther lift tilt and trim. the one on the boat doesnt work so i bought the front bracket with motor and actuator for 225.00 off fb market place. started changing the bracket out and realized all i really needed to do was change out the motor and actuator. got that done in nothing flat. then i kicked myself for not getting what i needed for a lot less money. these are about 600.00 or a little less new. there was another one for 200.00 and i bought it for a spare off fb market place. if you dont get power tilt on you motor you may want one of these. i think cmc also make one. if you want a used one check out fb. i'll be starting out with an ez steer set up to steer my kicker from my big motor. they make brackets outboard to outboard or I/O to outboard. if this doesnt work i'll be getting the garmin reactor 40 auto pilot for just under 2600.00 for it. it's just for the kicker. i would go ahead and get the garmin but i already have auto pilot on the big motor and right now 2600.00 isnt in my budget.

offer sent.

like said above the caption of the vessel is the most important thing. we started salmon fishing on lake mi. started with a 16' deep v runabout with an old Evinrude 80 hp. fished it a few times for a couple of yrs. then we moved to fishing erie hard for a couple of yrs then bought an old 18' Cherokee that had been left under a tree in a field for yrs. then i got enough nerve to ask about it. i had to redo everything before using it. but i fished almost every weekend for the next 12 yrs. i still miss that old boat. but out 12 or 15 miles and it gets rough in a hurry i would feel just as safe in that 18 as i do in the 21' glass boat i use now. but i do feel more comfortable in my 21'

will these work on the old mag 10's? i just bought a boat with long boom mag 10's on it. i would like to be able to adjust the booms. if they should work for me mark them sold. and i'll need them shipped. sending you a message.

i just offered to buy them if the sale falls through.

i'm not 100% sure but looks like rubber band release. hook it to the rigger ball then half hitch a rubber band to your line then place the rubber band in the end of release. just my thoughts.

he didn't say he was going to pay for the parts. he said he would pay for shipping. he wants old broken units that he can get for free and use parts to fix his unite. the op can correct me if i'm wrong.

YES! i dont think he has been back to this thread since i first posted on it. i called him and he made the sale by phone. my oldest son and i went up sat and bought the boat and towed it back home.

thanks Paul, the boat seems to be as described. we towed her home yesterday. had a flat and was down 3 1/2 hrs. the spare was junk and the wheel wouldn't work. unhooked the boat and went and bought 2 new tires then back on the road.

there wasn't anything said about planer boards and i didn't see any. is this boat set up to run big boards?

as much as i would have loved to have this boat we just dont have enough money to buy it. were getting a 89 sylvan that's a little more in our reach. even if he took the extras off the boat we couldnt swing it. good luck selling it.

yeah he might take advantage of his kindness. hey tom i know you wasn't one of the 5 complaints. they should have asked the guys i took advantage of if they felt like i had taken advantage of them.

hey tom sure been missing you guys. i had just put a new bimina top on my boat and just got back from erie. i backed the boat in the pole barn with the tip leaning back on the back frame. but it didnt fit and busted the windscreen on the drivers side plus pulled the top out of the boat and destroyed it. i had just a little insurance on it. but anyway my son and his wife said they would chip in on a bigger lake erie boat. so i started looking. tell all the guys on ogf i miss them.

you said you replaced the long block with one from michigan motors. my whole engine in my 21' boat came from michigan motors. in 2010 i bought a new silver package and had them install it. the only problems i ever had was the water line on the outdrive busted and it overheated and blew both head gaskets. then another time on erie we heard the motor rattling and shut it off. the remote oil filter line vibrated loose and lost my oil. but thats been a few yrs ago and she's still been running. so i'm a firm believer in the quality of there engines.

we've been looking at your boat but we've also been looking at a few others. were looking at a 270 sea ray and a couple of thompson 24' hardtops. i totaled my 21' boat and got 4000 from the insurance company. my son and his wife said they would chip in on a larger boat so that leaves me for the rest. i'm not sure how much were going to come up with. i know i would do better to show up and make you an offer. but before driving my truck that far at 12 mpg i'd feel better if i knew we could buy it. you have it listed for 8500 or best offer. if we came up to look at the boat and offered you 7500 cash would we be wasting our time? i'm not insulting your boat or you, were just limited on money. we have to pay 7% sales tax that's an extra 5 or 6 hundred. my son and his wife works 7 days a week recently but may be off this week end. would you be able to meet up sat for a deal if we can agree on price? how wide is your boat as we'll be trailering from muncie in to geneva oh?