Whole Herring and Smelt

[Big Water]

Has anyone ever ordered bait fom D&G Bait.  I don't know how these would compare with trays of bait (for quality or price).  I have an email to them now with some questions.

 

 

[rolmops]

If that stuff does what the name implies you should not use it on Ontario,but then again, sturgeon are on the bottom while salmon are higher up.

[Big Water]

If that stuff does what the name implies you should not use it on Ontario,but then again, sturgeon are on the bottom while salmon are higher up.

I'm not targeting sturgeon.  It looks like whole cured fish.  I've only seen uncured whole fish.

[rolmops]

That's alright,people may write about what a fish is supposed to like.

The thing that the name and the advertizement implies is that it made to target bottom feeders  (stink bait?). Salmonides like their food fresh.

[Xxx]

I Have a buddy that is, well did put up a sporting good store here in PA. and he claims to make it the Fat Nancy's of the Poconos, he also has a place in the Mexico area up north and he claims they go to some lake in Vermont way back in the boondox and they ice fish for smelt. He claims they catch them by the 5 gallon buckets full, they eat them? he says they are sweet tasting you just gut them cut off the heads fry them and eat them bones and all   I told him to bring me a half a bucket home. Freeze them solid in the bucket and bring them home, but I got to thinking I can't do that because I won't have a yellow ticket to go with my bait. They didn't go yet so I have time to tell Ted forget about it. When you guys buy herring and smelt what do you use for a ticket that says they are disease free? Thanks for any suggestions

Edited November 24, 2013 by pap

[Sk8man]

Pap - Here in NYS if you buy the bait in a store you have to have a ticket with the date, how many you bought, and the initials of the person selling. It is good for 10 days from that date. If you aquire commercially prepared bait in a store or online you are supposed to keep the packaging that came with it as proof. There are some (many) bodies of water where possession is not permitted of live or "dead" bait. If you harvest your own sawbellies or smelt etc. they can only be used (as bait) in the  body of water in which they originated. In that case you would not have a "ticket" and the burden of proof would be on you.

[Xxx]

Thanks Les, it was a good idea but not worth the headache to prove where they came from. I always get checked so I take no chances.

[Adk1]

Sure, we dip smelt all the time. and yes, the are very tasty.

[King Slammin]

Smelt are super tasty. A little bit of work cleaning all the little guys but worth it. A good pair of scissors and a lot of beer makes it easier.

[jimski2]

Pacific Herring are the major forage for salmon and would work here but the regulators have something to say about using it.

[Xxx]

Pacific Herring are the major forage for salmon and would work here but the regulators have something to say about using it.

(the regulators) meaning the law, fish comm, Yea, that's what I mean you need proof of you purchase, like SK8 said. What I used to do is vacpac the fish whole and alive then freeze no water, they are just like a hearty dead minnow, if you add water and freeze they get mushy, lets figure out how to purchase whole smelt and make it legal. If we bought the fish who could we use as a bait store, for a purchase date and time, for a fee do you guys think a bait shop would do this?

[Tim Bromund]

Why don't you just get the Whole Alewives from Familiar Bite?  They are Lake Ontario Alewives. Certified VHS Free.

 

http://cart.gltsupplies.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=166

 

Tim

[Xxx]

Why don't you just get the Whole Alewives from Familiar Bite?  They are Lake Ontario Alewives. Certified VHS Free.

 

http://cart.gltsupplies.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=166

 

Tim

Great Tim, Thanks for the heads up!!! thanks pap

[Adk1]

Why don't you just get the Whole Alewives from Familiar Bite?  They are Lake Ontario Alewives. Certified VHS Free.

 

http://cart.gltsupplies.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=166

 

Tim

How many come in eac hindividual pack? and what is the difference between the Green and Red labels other than the damn color?

Edited November 26, 2013 by Adk1

[Tim Bromund]

8 to a pack, 6 packs to a case

 

The difference is size, red label are smaller  5"-6"  and green label are 6"-7"

 

Of course, they're sold out for the season right now, but they'll have em back in the spring. 

 

I have used them and the do catch fish, but they are touchy to tune properly to get the correct roll.  Personally, I had better luck getting a proper tune out of the red label.

 

Tim

Edited November 26, 2013 by Tim Bromund

[Big Water]

Why don't you just get the Whole Alewives from Familiar Bite?  They are Lake Ontario Alewives. Certified VHS Free.

 

http://cart.gltsupplies.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=166

 

Tim

 

Thanks Tim.  I didn't realize until now that these were already brined.