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Here's an interesting artile/FAQ's on Ethanol by Mercury Marine. Scoll down & you'll see an interesting picture. http://www.mercurymarine.com/service-an ... ry=ethanol Tom B. (LongLine)

E85 was approved by the EPA for road vehicles 2007 and newer. This means gas stations will have to maintain a separate tank and pump if they decide to sell gas to older cars. Testing on older vehicles has not been completed. According to Bloomberg, the EPA has excluded "nonroad" engines which includes boats and snowmobiles. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-1 ... -cars.html These area NYS stations are listed as selling E-85: Newcomb’s –Pittsford Pittsford-Victor Road Mobil –Pittsford Mobil – 1000 Jefferson Rd - Roch Fastrac Markets – Henrietta Rd – Roch Tegg’s Mobil – Brooks Ave – Roch 12 Corners Mobil – Monroe Ave Roch Don & Holly's Mobil - Spencerport Fastrac Market - Fulton DiPrima's Mobil -Fairport http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/progs/i ... php/NY/E85 Myself, I'm going to stay away from them. Gas may be cheaper but I can't afford the repairs. As for using E15 in your boat - Be wary: http://www.theoutboardwizard.com/boat_e ... ution.html http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_ ... ewsID=3345 Honda specifically says don’t use E85: http://marine.honda.com/owners/fuelrecommendations Evinrudes – 10% max http://www.evinrude.com/en-US/Owners-Ce ... OilAndFuel Mercury says use up to 10% & will void the warranty if you go over: http://www.mercurymarine.com/service-an ... ry=ethanol Check out Has Been's post in other section. Tom B. (LongLine) Zeke & Cyn - I owe ya....

If the vent and cap were cranked down tight, how would water vapor enter the tank? Tom B. (LongLine)

Droz put together a very logical & thought provoking presentation. I highly recomend everyone click on the site & take a look at it. Tom B. (LongLine)

Rolmops - I don’t mean to be “knee-jerk†here but those people that melt lead in the kitchen are already nuts. They risk burning their house down, not to mention P-ing Off the wife. Lead should only be melted where there is plenty of ventilation. (And don’t stand downwind) I glad your son was okay; emergency rooms can be traumatic, sometimes more for the parents than the kids. As for little kids ingesting things, I believe they do it because of the size/color & curiosity. I wouldn’t want a kid to ingest a plastic bead off a fly leader. Child proofing (if that’s possible) a home, shop or boat is something that we should all be aware of and strive for. I know my kids were taught very early to keep out of my fishing stuff: 1 because hooks are extremely sharp & 2. Its Dad’s – paws off! (A few years back, I had a winter hobby of making kid’s hardwood toys which the wife sold at craft shows. The law then was that no parts could fit through a 1 3/8†diameter circle.) Ray – Next time you stop at the “RoadKill Caféâ€, ask the chef if he’s found any lead in the stomach of the House Special. House plumbing is a very good example, however Rochester & the Monroe Cnty Water Authority recommend just letting the tap water run for a minute, then drink it. Many houses used to have lead water pipes, not just the soldered copper ones. Many steel drains/sewage pipes still have leaded joints. As far as battery lead goes, wait till you see what’s required for solar power. Tom B. (LongLine)

I've heard they make decent Musky bait. Tom B. (LongLine)

Guess Ray's not the only one with a squirel problem. Tom B. (LongLine)

I read some of those links & lead is definitely an interesting subject. No doubt if a creature has excessive exposure to lead dust, ingests lead paint chips or sucks on a lead sinker, it’ll have health problems. I guess I could understand it in hunting or skeet shooting with a shot gun, from a quantity standpoint, when in a single shot a few pellets, that are roughly 1/8-3/16†in diameter, hit the target and the rest (10-30) end up lying in the field somewhere. It’s possible that an animal may come along & eat some of the thousands lying there. However it’s also quite possible that the same creature would also eat the steel, copper, zinc or any other shot that didn’t hit the target. It appears that the similarity in shape & size between buckshot & split shot is what indicts the later. The petitioners obviously are not familiar with many forms of fishing. They’ve taken a case where split shot may or may not be used and state why shot is detrimental. They then go further with generalizations implying that lead containing fishing products are bad for wildlife. Jigs are basically a dressed up hook with a lead head. If a bird eats it, wouldn’t the hook kill it, as it rips his throat apart while swallowing, before the ingested lead does it in? A bird isn’t going to lick a jig like an ice cream cone. Some of us have had birds chase our lures & actually hooked them. Again wouldn’t the hook kill them if they swallowed it by ripping up their guts, before the paint does them harm? As far as sinkers go, when a fisherman gets a snag and loses his sinker, it means the line broke between his sinker and the reel. A bird would have to either dig it out from what it’s snagged on and or contend with the hook and line. Again we’re talking one, two, three, split shot per snag and not 10-30 per shotgun round. Other lead weights that trollers or still fishermen use are also much larger than shot. Just because a sinker is made from a different material doesn’t mean a bird won’t eat it, if it’s so inclined to eat sinkers. Zinc, copper, steel will also harm them. The only birds I’ve seen stabbing at the water & moving rocks are storks, heron, flamingos and they’ve only been in water that’s a few inches deep. I’ve seen films of birds swimming through the water chasing fish but never of any digging through the bottom trying to free up anything directly off the bottom or moving underwater rocks in water that is deep enough to require sinkers in. I’ve never heard of an Eagle diving like a Loon in 60 FOW for a meal. Eagles don’t have webbed feet & don’t sit or swim in the water. In fact, the studies blame lead poisoning for water fowl fatalities, but unless I missed it, how many Loons have been found with sinkers in their stomachs? The EPA says “lead does not dissolve in water†& alkyl-lead is the “bad guyâ€, not elemental lead. http://www.epa.gov/grtlakes/bns/lead/steplead.html. It’s still an additive in aviation fuel. Now I understand lead oxides and a lot of that good stuff however Alkyl-lead is lead that has combined with carbon. Someone is going to have to explain to me how elemental lead used in sinkers becomes Alkyl-lead via fishing with it. Another point is that in one of the links cited, it talks about total tonnage of lead used by manufacturers of fishing gear and facetiously asks whether fishermen have vast collections of it. These writers obviously don’t know fishing at all. I have over 150 Lbs of it just in downrigger weights alone but I only use them two at a time. BTW, I haven’t lost a weight or a sinker in over 15 years. A problem with the proposed alternative materials is that many fishermen like to make their own sinkers & weights. Although titanium is heavier, cost is out of this world. Other metals would require us to own blast furnaces. Tin doesn’t flow for nothing in molds. (I’ve tried it) Glass or ceramic would require kilns and would be a real challenge to bottom bounce with. Sand weights might work but getting the shape right or preventing them from ripping apart over jagged bottom terrain would be tough. I’d like to see a little more definitive data concerning the sources of the lead that’s causing these avian fatalities. Don’t assume a duck that died from lead poisoning ate sinkers. Lead is all around us. Aviation fuel/exhaust, off-road vehicle fuel, reading glasses, sunglasses with glass lenses, machined brass/copper/stainless steel fittings, hardware & screws, keys, stained glass, fine crystal & glassware, regular window glass that’s over 20 years old… Tom B. (LongLine) Ps those health warnings on metal products usually concern carcinogens. Lead is not carcinogenic. It’s the nickel that’s a problem…in California.

I just went & got 100 bucks worth of fishing gear for my wife......best trade I ever made. Congatulations Tom B. & wife of 32 years (LongLine)

Welcome to the site. Next trip to NY, try Olcott. Tom B. (LongLine) Just busting on ya. Glad to have you aboard.

WTG! Did the 12# have an adipose fin? Tom B. (LongLine)

As Ray implied...it's all downhill from here. (winter's coming-time to wax the skis) Happy Birthday Bill Tom B. (LongLine)

ditto Glen. If it comes up, your definitely way going to fast. Tom B. (LongLine)

30 called & 14 show up??? The note I got once for jury duty said to show up or "have the sheriffs show up." Tom B. (LongLine)

Welcome to the site slugs. Check out the reports section Tom B. (LongLine)

Welcome to the site. Tell us how it's done "down-under"? Tom B. (LongLine)

What's bigger a pound of lead or a pound of feathers? A gallon of this used to be the same size as a gallon of that. An amino molecule is larger than the NA, however the NA string can be larger. This of course goes by volume and not necessarily mass. (weight) I leave it up to the student to add up all the atomic weights to determine the exact mass to volume ratios.(assume earth's gravitational field) Tom B. (LongLine) p.s. hint: 14

Rule #1: "Firearms & Thunder-Butts not allowed." Tom B. (LongLine) sorry, couldn't resist...

Hey Musky - you know how I meant it. I'd like to know if he reads it the same way I do. The stocking program is indeed very viable and has a tremendous payback to the local economies. It's been great for fishermen too! Hey 2thdoc - Tell "bro" to google the US General Accounting Office (GAO) & Great Lakes fish/restoration expenditures. They also have done in-depth studies that show tremendous paypack. Like from 93-03 states & Feds spent close to $300M (fish, staff, hatcheries, ships) and got a return well over $1B. Tom B. (LongLine)

New licenses needed after 30 Sept. Hooks on lures must be free swinging. Laker season closed Oct, Nov & Dec. Special trib regulations in effect. Tom B. (LongLine)