Another outdoor decision by Washington

[NETBOY101]

https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/petition-to-ban-hunting-in-oregon-gains-traction-for-november-ballot/

 

Hope this doesn't happen in New York

[HB2]

4 hours ago, NETBOY101 said:

https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/petition-to-ban-hunting-in-oregon-gains-traction-for-november-ballot/

 

Hope this doesn't happen in New York

 

Keep voting for Dems and this stuff is what you get. 

 

Even just getting it on the ballot  is a win for them . 

 

 Every year it gets more crazy .  

[Gator]

I don't think either side has a monopoly on crazy. If you want to understand the justification for just about any major initiative, right or left, follow the $$$. No matter what, the economic divide is going to widen. 

[HB2]

Can't deny the fact that the Dems ( crazy left wing mind you ) 

want to stop any sport fishing or hunting and to disarm us . 

 

They say it outright.  Many  times. They don't even hide it anymore  . The history is there. 

[NETBOY101]

35 minutes ago, HB2 said:

Can't deny the fact that the Dems ( crazy left wing mind you ) 

want to stop any sport fishing or hunting and to disarm us . 

 

They say it outright.  Many  times. They don't even hide it anymore  . The history is there. 

 

[NETBOY101]

Sorry about the double part. My phone's messed up. I just think it's crazy that in Oregon this new petition that is almost all filled up and ready to be on the ballot.Is if you raise ducks or chickens and you want to harvest them, they're trying to pass it that you can't harvest them. Or if you want a fish, you can't harvest a fish or if you want to hunt you can't hunt and harvest an animal. I'm not a very political person. Been reading this form a lot, but that's crazy. If this starts happening in New York I will fight to make sure that this doesn't happen

[LongLine]

I followed the links.  Please point out the section in the proposal that makes hunting, fishing or trapping an illegal activity.  I don't see it.

 

I read their proposal to the PEACE ACT and see a few places where they say, "Except as otherwise authorized by law" and even a statement on pg 8 that says "does not apply to '(g) lawful fishing, hunting and trapping activities'" 

 

I doubt the reporter/journalists or their producers even read it but there's probably money behind their views.

[rolmops]

10 hours ago, LongLine said:

I followed the links.  Please point out the section in the proposal that makes hunting, fishing or trapping an illegal activity.  I don't see it.

 

I read their proposal to the PEACE ACT and see a few places where they say, "Except as otherwise authorized by law" and even a statement on pg 8 that says "does not apply to '(g) lawful fishing, hunting and trapping activities'" 

 

I doubt the reporter/journalists or their producers even read it but there's probably money behind their views.

Thank you for exposing deliberate misinformation.

I'm not sure that only money is behind this. It looks more like an effort to steer voter sentiment toward anti democratic party sentiment with the upcoming elections in mind. Lying or misleading has always been a powerful tool to get onto or stay on the gravy train.

I suggest reading "Breakfast of Champions" by Kurt Vonnegut to get a preview of what may be waiting for us.

Edited February 17 by rolmops

[fisherdude]

None of it was from outside decision from the White house . it's from a state ....  dose this mean it's all going to be taken down. Sounds hypocritical to me ..

[fisherdude]

On 2/12/2026 at 6:44 PM, Gill-T said:

Come on guys keep the bobsled in the lane of what the original thread was about -Government oversight and decisions that affect outdoor activities/ access. 

 

On 2/12/2026 at 7:55 PM, L&M said:

 

 

 

[Gill-T]

As far as I am concerned we can use this thread for review of all forms of legislative changes within government that affect our outdoor pursuits. There are forces from the smallest town boards all the way to the federal government that make decisions that could negatively impact our way of life as we know it. These decisions made by people in power are usually driven by greed and require our oversight. Party lines matter not. 

[fisherdude]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/democrats-pushing-to-get-ice-under-control-with-dhs-shutdown-jeffries-says 

 Like shut down the Coast Guard TSA FEMA these are agencies that are important to the outside. You're flying in the sky help people out with from storms in the Coast Guard are in our fresh waters in salt Waters

[rolmops]

Right now , what mostly endangers my outdoors plans is ICE. The kind that floats on the water and seems to get thicker and thicker by the day. I fear the political decisions that decide when to pull ice barrier in Lake Eerie. I have bad dreams about trying to reach the  Green Can while being surrounded by ice bergs that come thundering down the Niagara Falls and race down the River, spreading out exactly where I want to drop my lines.

As for all the political decisions... I do believe that the soup is never eaten as hot as it is served. Most of all these plans tend to die a slow death or get buried in a desk or get lost between sub committees, or just decapitated by change of politics after elections .

[GAMBLER]

1 hour ago, rolmops said:

Right now , what mostly endangers my outdoors plans is ICE. The kind that floats on the water and seems to get thicker and thicker by the day. I fear the political decisions that decide when to pull ice barrier in Lake Eerie. I have bad dreams about trying to reach the  Green Can while being surrounded by ice bergs that come thundering down the Niagara Falls and race down the River, spreading out exactly where I want to drop my lines.

As for all the political decisions... I do believe that the soup is never eaten as hot as it is served. Most of all these plans tend to die a slow death or get buried in a desk or get lost between sub committees, or just decapitated by change of politics after elections .

You could take up ice fishing.  It helps cure cabin fever!

[Gill-T]

https://www.startribune.com/congress-might-end-a-ban-on-mining-near-the-boundary-waters-heres-what-to-know/601579821

[Gator]

Steve Pearce's confirmation hearing to head the Bureau of Land Management is today. This is a guy who (along with Mike Lee) tried to sell off public lands to private interests, and his primary mandate appear to be, "Drill, baby, drill", with mining a close second.

 

The line below is an admittedly biased take on his hearing by The Wilderness Society - but not in a partisan way. In fact, there's a quorum of hunters and ex-military joining conservationists who oppose his nomination. Makes for an interesting stew.

 

https://www.wilderness.org/articles/blog/questions-steve-pearce-guide-senators#

 

 

 

[Kingfisher06]

The rails are being greased in many ways for technologies nobody asked for and a lot of folks don't want. The raw materials are being fought over between countries and corps. The govt is buying stakes in private mining companies, particularly rare earths. https://www.tradingview.com/news/reuters.com,2026:newsml_L4N3Z01XF:0-trump-administration-pivots-to-buying-stakes-in-critical-sectors/

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/amazon-digs-deep-ai-gold-copper-mine-partnership-fuels-massive-data-center-expansion

 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/signing-of-long-term-deal-for-supply-of-uranium-for-india-s-n-power-generation-expected-during-canada-pm-s-visit-101771997765309.html

 

If you are a Micron (bought wetlands cheap, filled over 250 ac), solar company/grid infrastructure (NYSDEC General Permits speedup permitting/review), data centers, or mining the raw materials to build this industry up you'll have greased rails and the public comment is just a formality.  

 

 

 

 

[Gill-T]

https://www.hatchmag.com/articles/trump-administration-orders-dismantling-us-forest-service/7716263
 

Full disclosure I have no idea what this website is. I will to try to find more well known sites to verify 

[Gill-T]

https://www.npca.org/articles/11371-president-s-budget-proposal-slashes-national-park-service-funding-amid
 

 

 

Edited April 4 by Gill-T

[Gator]

I don't recall whether we've covered this, but it comes out of NYS, impacts sportsmen directly, and is in the process of happening under our noses:

 

DIsclaimer: This is an AI overview so as to familiarize folks with the impact of what's happening and who's behind it

 

AI Overview

As of April 2026, New York State is actively moving to allow solar energy projects on public land, specifically targeting state-owned reforestation areas. While the DEC manages these lands, legislation such as the 

RAPID Act (2024) streamlines the permitting process, sometimes allowing installations on state forests and near protected wetlands to meet renewable energy goals. 

New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (.gov) +3

Key Details on Solar on Public Land:

• State Forest Utilization: Proposed legislation (Senate Bill S4408) seeks to allow the leasing of 775,000 acres of state reforestation lands for solar, wind, and battery projects.
• Permitting Streamlining: The Office of Renewable Energy Siting (ORES), created under the 2019 Climate Act, handles permits to speed up development.
• DEC General Permit: The DEC has issued a general permit (GP-0-25-004) to allow solar projects of less than 25 MW in certain state-regulated wetlands and protected waters.
• Landfill Solar: The DEC supports and has policies for solar projects on closed solid waste landfills (Policy DMM-4).
• Controversy: The conversion of state forests into solar farms has raised environmental concerns about deforestation and habitat loss, sparking pushback. 
  New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (.gov) +6

Note: As of March 2026, the legislation expanding this to 775,000+ acres was passed by the Senate and was in the Assembly, with potential for inclusion in budget negotiations. 

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[HB2]

Hey , and who is pushing all this everything electric agenda ? 

 

 

 

 

[Gill-T]

I love the solar projects on landfill idea and am starting to see some around Niagara Falls but to take up state forest and wetland tracks??????? WTF. 

[LongLine]

I'd rather have solar panels with no outfall than destructive mines or oil wells as the WH wants, especially in light of what the Feds have done (and continue to do) to gas/fuel bills. 
 

1MW takes up approx 2 acres.....big whoop!

[HB2]

Man it's a good thing electric bills haven't gone up . 

[Gator]

Unfortunately, the existing 350+ solar installations provide only ~6% of NYS's consumption. And we all know what a solar field looks like; that would have been unheard of a decade ago. Some areas you can't drive a mile it seems without seeing a field of panels.

 

If the plan is to triple solar output in the next decade, I shudder to think of how that will impact our upstate environment. If money talks and BS walks, it's probably inevitable. Meli-friggin'-ora.