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Correct. New strain of browns being stock now in lake o. This year might actually be the first year of 100 percent of the new strain.

well getting old now, be 71 in a few weeks. The 5.0 [17 footer], hasn't been on the water for several years, and not even sure I'll get the 4.4 out any time soon the way things are going.I stand by the opinion these were among the very best aluminum boats ever built.. Might be selling the 17 if anyone is interested, and probably will let it go cheap... bob

I'm wondering if anyone was able to get out fishing today for browns? Looks like as of now there's favorable winds tomorrow. Thanks for any feedback.

Hello. I was wondering if anyone got out on lake today for browns. I'm thinking about giving it a try tomorrow,looks like favorable winds...thanks

Been checking the bar occasionally, late afternoons. I began wondering if my transducer fell off. I'm hoping things set up better in about a week.

I am firmly in the "best ever" camp for the Grumman Meter series. My folks bought me one when I was 13 and it's still going 45 years later. I now have 3: two 3.8's with 25hp Mercs and a 4.6 side console with a 50hp Merc. Three of my buddies have also found a 4.4s that are in almost daily use, so now we've got a half dozen on the lake! I'm redoing the transom on all 3 of mine (amazed they lasted this long) and the false floor in the 4.6, plus wiring. I've rarely had any leak issues and are easy to fix. Solid, stable and fast if setup for it. They will outlast me. As you mentioned they are hard to find and not cheap. I saw a 5.0 + ETEC a few years back I should have grabbed. The 5.0's are very rare, so congrats on yours. Would love an update if you see this. Cheers,

This year has been one of the toughest king bites that I can remember since 07 We have been here since April 23rd fishing nearly every day. When we first got here it was game on for 3 weeks then huge die off of alswife tons of east wind and weather watched them shut down like a light switch. Each day we target Kings with a few coho rigs out on average we take 4-7 king shots if we land them or not is a different story, but if it wasn't for coho we would have some disappointed customers. For me I just have to be honest with them upfront king bite is poor and the coho bite is on fire. Something else we usually catch A few lakers each day . I haven't caught a laker in 3 weeks and I targeted lakers one day for 2 -3 hrs

AFW 30lb can be found here at FishUSA. I use the two reel method for figuring out backing. Spool on the wire and then fill reel with backing. Take a second reel and zero the counter. Reel on the backing and note the counter number once it's on the reel. Continue to reel on the 1000' of wire. On your empty reel use the data you got from the first to determine where to stop with the braid.

I'm thinking that I read recently about either a strain swap or some outcrossing at the hatchery meant to improve browns - can't recall the exact details. Maybe Dave should put ribeye and MacCallan 18 on the menu for the award ceremony to make up for the boards that have been eliminated or failed to be filled over the past couple years.

IMO, Okuma 55 series is too small for 450 copper. If you fish it down the chute you can probably get away with it

Any links to that wire? What backing/how much? Thanks

I have 4 Okuma 30 size reels for my wire rods. 2 have 1000’ 30lb Blood Run wire with 350’ of 50lb braid backer. 2 have 1000’ AFW 30lb wire with 300’ of 65lb braid backer. I take notes on what spool up for each rod so I don’t have to guess every time I fill a reel.

me also...........long story with a newbie on the boat

theres a chart/description in the tackle and techniques section that tells you everything you need to know.

350’ 45Lb Copper on 55L 450’ 50Lb (.014”) Braid Backer 55L Reel is too small for 450’ 45Lb Copper (my opinion) I have an extra Solterra 20L reel that would fit 400-500 copper nicely if you are interested. It’s brand new.

If you have two 55L Okumas laying around, spool the 45 backwards on one, and see how much braid it'll hold. You'll be able to run more than that for the 350'. Kind of a rough way of doing it but will work. I know someone here has some formulas/spreadsheet to help calculate this stuff.

I have good luck using a reel calculator from tangled tackle. Here's a link https://tangledtacklecompany.com/pages/trolling-reel-line-calculator