Other DEC launches final year of experimental Atlantic salmon project on Lake Champlain

[salmoseine]

https://www.fingerlakes1.com/2025/04/02/dec-launches-final-year-of-experimental-atlantic-salmon-project-on-lake-champlain/   

 

[Gill-T]

Giant waste of time and money to pen rear so few salmon. I bet they get under 10 fish return. 

[chowder]

Atlantics do not compete well in any of the environments I’ve fished in ( Ontario, Seneca and Cayuga). I will admit I’m not a fisheries expert but it doesn’t seem like these programs have a good rate of return.

[GAMBLER]

  On 4/3/2025 at 7:21 PM, chowder said:

Atlantics do not compete well in any of the environments I’ve fished in ( Ontario, Seneca and Cayuga). I will admit I’m not a fisheries expert but it doesn’t seem like these programs have a good rate of return.

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Studies have proven that Atlantics on an alewife diet will not flourish.  I don't understand the square block in a round hole mentality of the DEC and the Feds.  

[Trouthunter]

Then why do the atlantics do so well in the ST. MARYS river in Lake Huron do they not feed on alewife there too do not know if is true

[GAMBLER]

  On 4/4/2025 at 3:45 PM, Trouthunter said:

Then why do the atlantics do so well in the ST. MARYS river in Lake Huron do they not feed on alewife there too do not know if is true

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The alewife population in Lake Huron crashed.  They now have a more diverse diet.  I will see if I can dig up the study I read a couple years ago.  Thiamine deficiency affects Atlantics more than the other salmonoids stocked in Lake Ontario.  There is a high mortality rate in Atlantics on alewife diets.   

[Gill-T]

St Mary’s Atlantics have always been at risk. Without careful raising and stocking Atlantics, the fishery would collapse. The  people running the program admit as much. 

[ifishy]

Does lake Champlain have alewives? I thought there was a good fishery there but dont really have much direct knowledge. Atlantics In Lake o are a pipe dream at best In the finger lakes they can be a decent fishery contributer but only Maintained through stocking, being a waste there is a matter of opinion each water body should be considered as it's own

[dry net]

Yes , Champlain has alewives.

 

[GAMBLER]

  On 4/5/2025 at 12:12 AM, ifishy said:

Does lake Champlain have alewives? I thought there was a good fishery there but dont really have much direct knowledge. Atlantics In Lake o are a pipe dream at best In the finger lakes they can be a decent fishery contributer but only Maintained through stocking, being a waste there is a matter of opinion each water body should be considered as it's own

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If the fingerlakes had a better food source than alewife, Atlantics would do even better than they do in the fingerlakes.  Same with lake O.  Lake Ontario would pump out giants with a better food source.