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Exactly. That is the whole point. When I got into my 28 footer, I panicked way too much. Now if the wind takes me, I don't touch the dial. If I have to nudge something, no damage is done. It's when you gun it and over compensate that the real damage happens. I went from a 19 to a 28 footer. By the end of month 1, I was confident, but like others said, never get overly confident. Being intimidated is a good thing, keeps you on high alert and prepared. The best thing is to captain the boat and make sure everyone follows YOUR instructions. You don't need 2 people giving instructions. Before I head out I always go over the docking procedure for when we get back, BEFORE not after. I can show guys on the dock in my own time, no pressure, what I need them to do. I even go over what we need to do if something goes wrong. When we get back, everything works like clock work. Even when a gust blows me away from the dock, everyone stays in check and we get it sorted out. In terms of speed, jog the drive into gear and back to neutral in 1 second spurts (1 second on, 2 seconds in neutral). This gets you moving really slowly, to the point that with a single you can pretty much pivot on point. You can practice that in open water and you will get really good at it. Another trick is to go to neutral about 2 or 3 slips BEFORE you reach your slip. This means you will be virtually stopped by the time you get to your slip and any movement of the drive in conjuction with a steer to starboard or port, will pivot the boat on point. Just go slow and don't panick, all will be fine. Never let a boat size intimidate you from a purchase, you can learn to drive, but you can't undo buying a smaller boat (and wishing you had gone bigger), at least not without losing a lot of money.
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Best time to sell a boat - Fall vs. Spring
TyeeTanic replied to momay4000's topic in Open Lake Discussion
I would say late spring. People will get the itch when the weather gets better, so late May. You can also take them out on the boat, and give them comfort in the deal, so they will be prepared to pay more. -
How do you run your copper?
TyeeTanic replied to markmonkey1's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
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Could have been fishing in bad temps. Google search Lake Ontario Temp Transects and find the government website. It will help you understand where the food water is if you don't have a probe. Alternatively get yourself a relatively inexpensive Fishhawk TD Probe.
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Do you get the same interference in 200 and 50 Hz?
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Spooling up wire line
TyeeTanic replied to wannabe trollin's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
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TX44 boards are what I use, they are great, can run any kind of line on them, from lite to heavy. shinintimes is right, go search youtube.
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That fuse block uses a common ground, so you can pick up interference from any one of those devices. So to be safe I would go straight to the battery, with an inline fuse on the live wire (as close to the battery as possible). Also 50 Hz does get interference from the engine at certain RPMs. I heard it was +800 rpm, not sure. Going to 200 Hz will show less noise. Finally, if you do have prop wash/turbulence on that transducer as Sk8man says you won't be able to do anything about it.
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Water Temperature Map
TyeeTanic replied to djw13cwru's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glcfs.php?lake=o&ext=vwt&type=N&hr=00 See above link. That is probably what you are looking for. -
I agree the cost of a trip (gas, tackle, maintenance) doesn't leave much left for profit. $500 might seem like a lot of money, but if you burn $150 in gas, $20 in bait, $30 to $50 in maintenance (averaged over many trips), insurance, certification, any lost tackle/leaders, the cost is probably at least $300 or more, for about 8 hours of fishing. That means you might make $200 in 10 hours (captain needs to be there 1 hr before and after trip) - and you still have to pay a first mate $100. So You make $100 in 10 hours - below minimum wage. And that doesn't even include amortization of the boat. So you paid $60k for the boat and it's going to last 10 years? That's $6000 per year you are burning up in depreciation. 60 trips per year is a lot, but say that many, is $100 per trip. That leaves $0 for the captain. They don't do it to get rich. If they worked hard, you should tip minimum 10%, average 15%. If you were lucky and caught a bunch of great fish on top - at least 20%.
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I always loosen the drag on my Convectors when dropping the rigger weight. When I stop dropping, I tighten up the drag about 1/4 turn and it holds. Still a good level of drag if a fish takes it, will definitely click the reel over. Not sure. I have 8 convectors of which 4 were purchased last year, and none of them have the problems described above. The only real issues I have with them are once in a while the line counter doesn't click, but a push of the reset button always corrects this. Also if the drags are really tight, it sticks a little, so if you back off the drag, the line doesn't come off easy until you over-loosen the drag. Once it gets going it loosens up nicely and I can easily manipulate the drag tension.
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FLEAS
TyeeTanic replied to battlehammer's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Hail to the king. He earned the title
TyeeTanic replied to Sk8man's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
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I have got a lot of fish recently on the slider. 6 ft free slider leader, 20# fluoro. Smallest BB swivels you can find. Let out you rigger line as normal down to the desired depth. Clamp swivel around rod line and drop into the water. It will naturally drop about 1/2 way down the line. Make sure the swivel on the line is small enough that it can't get past your swivel on the main rod line. If a fish hits on the slider, it will run all the way down to the main line swivel and stop. This means there's a lot of slack initially, and you need to reel really, really fast to take up that slack and avoid losing the fish. Caught a 25 lb'r the other weekend on a free slider.
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Wire divers for sure. They definitely catch more fish than the leadcores. Size #1 dipseys are the most versatile. I can't remember what diameter that is in the luhr jenson.
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600' of copper is going to need a big reel. Plus you want at least 500 ft of backing. Here is a reel loading chart from Blood Run Tackle. http://bloodruntackle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/CopperDiveChart.pdf Only 1 Okuma reel that fits that capacity.
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Asking for help..........Please
TyeeTanic replied to GlassWater Outdoors's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
If you are using the Fishhawk TD, that is a great device for the money. Put the TD on a dedicated rod with 10 to 12 oz's of weight. Check water temps every 30 minutes and adjust lines into the 44F - 52F territory (most targeting 48F, with a few at the top and bottom of this temp range.) -
Asking for help..........Please
TyeeTanic replied to GlassWater Outdoors's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
I caught a 35 lb salmon on an alligator spoon in mid-August. USE SPOONS. I get 60% of my hits on wire diver SD and flies. USE SD and Flies or PADDLES and Flies! We have landed +20 lb salmon on 300 or 400 copper, with meat. Ditto with meat on riggers. USE MEAT OFF COPPER and/or RIGGER! LOL. Sorry to poke fun. But there are no real hard core rules out here. The fish change from day to day, one day all fly bite, another day mostly spoons, another only meat. And I literally mean it changes in a 24 hour period. If you're on the US side, why not 3 rods per person? Aren't these the rules there? (I am in Canada, North Shore of Lake O). For 6 rods, I would start off as follows: - 1 rigger spoon at 44F, put a slider on this rigger with another smaller spoon. - 1 rigger with 11" paddle and meat (cut herring or whole anchovy is what we use). - early in the morning, 1 x 7 to 10 color leadcore on a UV spoon, off board. - early in the morning 1 x 250 or 300 copper on SD and meat, off board. - 2 x wire diver with SD or protroll and flies. If you don't have boards for the copper or leadcore, Than consider another wire diver, and put either a SD/fly on it or a straight spoon (off 8 to 10 ft leader). You can maybe run a flatline down the chute (but I don't like to do this). If you're going to buy boards get TX44's. For divers, yes wire. Fleas are out there by the bucket now, and accumulating on lines. Braid will be useless, and mono has WAY too much stretch, will be difficult to pop the dipsey and result in losses. Get 7 strand, 1000 ft of wire. Fits on a Convector 30D reel perfectly with about 150 ft of braid backing. -
Mag dipsy and large dipsy on same side
TyeeTanic replied to djw13cwru's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
It is good practice to have the outside dipsey with a longer line out than the inside. It especially helps on turns and sometimes in high surface currently. If currents are deep and varying, that can play havoc, but that goes with any line include riggers. We had a starboard paddle off the rigger go into the port rigger cable when we were 170 ft of cable out last week. It was nuts. -
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Other issues that can cause this, but you probably already know: - are you powering the head unit directly from your 12V battery? Is it a clean connection (not taking off power to any other users from this, or not off a distribution bus or switch panel)? Any bad ground will cause interference, unless you have a clean, dedicated cable from the battery to the head unit. - how have you run your power supply cable? Is it run close to the power cable to the engine? At certain engine frequencies, power to or from the engine can interfere with other power cables. - have you used the right power cable? 14 gauge (16 min, but you need to check distances). Correctly insulated cable, marine grade? Too small of a wire will heat up due to resistance, especially over long runs. Also poor quality cable is not shielded as well, so it can increase level of interference from other power consumers or sources. - what kind of interference are you talking about? Lots of color at the top of the screen (prop wash) or dots and dashes everywhere (electrical interference). You could try and reduce your sensitivity, but that will also reduce the fish you see.
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I've always used 7 strand and never had a break off on the wire since I spooled 4 years ago. I would say it's pretty tough. The 19 strand is good to, my fishing partner only uses that version (we are both stubborn). I wouldn't be overly concerned about 7 strand. Sure the 19 is more flexible, but 7 strand is also flexible enough, and the strands are thicker wire, so they don't break as easy. 19 strand wire can get the individual strands breaking easier. Probably the best feature of the 19 strand is that it doesn't have as much memory as the 7 strand, so it doesn't curl as quickly. I find with both the 7 and 19 strand it's a matter of how you treat the wire. Keep it tight, avoid pig tails, cut off when you start seeing curling. Curling will happen on both (sooner on the 7 strand) in the first 5 ft of the line, primarily due to spinning of the SD (even with spro BB swivels), especially when fleas accumulate on knots. When you see this, just cut it off and reterminate. Takes 5 minutes, not even.
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Wanted WANTED: Talora Rod Butt Cap
TyeeTanic posted a topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
Hello all. Does anyone have a Shimano Talora Rod End Cap that they can part with? It's the foam cap that covers the hard plastic gimbel end of the rod (end that goes into rod holder). Any end cap will do as they are all the same size. A guest donated one of mine to Lake Ontario this week. I need them to protect my seats from shafing. Would really appreciate it if someone has a spare one that I can purchase. Please PM me if you have one available. Thanks.







