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Reel for 200' Copper?

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Silver Fox

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Okuma 45 series is a perfect fit for a 200 copper

Sent from my E6782 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Yup, I got rid of my leadcore on my 45 and put on 200' bloodrun copper and love it. Been catching more fish on it too.

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Find the yardage capacity for a specific monofilament line on any reel you may have. Most will list it someplace on the reel itself or, look it up. Calculate it's cubic volume based on that data.

The formula is based on a cubic inch volume for any given line and it's diameter in thousands of an inch.

Therefore, if you find the data on the reel you have in your hand, you can find its volume capacity. The reel has inscribed data suggesting it will hold say 350 yards of 30 lb mono. For simplicity I have added data on thickness of popular lines used in most copper setups below.

Power pro 30lb is .011

32 lb blood run is .030

45 lb blood run is .033

30 lb big game or Ande mono is .022

20 lb big game or Ande mono is .018

The formula needs a simple mathematical calculator. No special features.

You know 350 yards of 30 lb mono will fit your reel you have. Now find its cubic inch volume.

1÷.022=45.45 ... now square that answer

40.45×45.45=2066 rounded up. That is how many inches of 30lb mono line will fit in a cubic inch.

36 inches are in one yard. Your reel holds 350 yards × 36 = 12,600 inches that fits your reel.

Divide 12,600 by 2066 = 6.1 cubic inches rounded up. Your reel has a volume capacity of 6.1 cubic inches.

Now you can easily find the combined volume of each line component commonly used in a copper setup for your specific reel. Keep in mind you can use this formula for any reel or combination of lines you want. This is an example.

Most folks like to have about 900 feet of backing on coppers. Use that as your base to begin. It is first on your reel and dictates by diameter and length how much copper you can spool on AND leave room for a wind on flouro leader of up to 30 feet.

Let's use power pro 30 lb braid. Some like 50 lb, but I find that 30 is enough and 900 feet of 30 takes less space than 900 feet of 50. Besides you are trying to get a specific length copper which is important for depth repeatability along with having enough backing for other deployment devices in play, such as, boards, or out riggers or stacking.

Again the same formula applies. Find the backing volume required first. Power pro 30lb is. 011 diameter.

1÷.011=90.91 rounded up (notice it's twice the .022 mono)

90.91×90.91=8,265 rounded up. That is the inches that will fit in 1 cubic inch. Divide it by 12 to get feet per cubic inch = 689 feet in one cubic inch. You want 900 feet of backing so 900÷689=1.31 cubic inches for your 900 foot backing.

Your reel is 6.1 cu in and now the 900 foot backing will consume 1.31 of that.

6.1-1.31=4.66 cubic inch left for copper and leader.

Now you can find out how much copper you can spool on. 32 lb blood run or 45 lb. That's the question.

Let's do 32 lb first that has a .030 diameter. Same formula again.

1÷.030=33.33×33.33=1111 rounded up.

1111 inches of 32lb copper in a cubic inch. 1111÷12 = 92.5 feet in a cubic inch.

You have 4.66 cubic inches on top of your backing calculation still remaining. So 4.66 × 92.5 = 431

You can fit 400 feet of 32 lb copper and a 30 foot 30lb wind on flouro leader!

You want 45lb? (.033 diameter )

1÷.033 = 30.30 × 30.30 = 918 ÷ 12 = 76.5

76.5×4.66=356 feet you can spool 330 feet of 45lb copper and a 30 foot flouro leader. I would make it a 300 45 lb copper and have a little room to spare.

Any reel any line with diameter data and yardage capacity of your reel.

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skipper19

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Reading it? I got through one sentence, looks down and said, no way!

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Yes! Way Scott!..it works perfectly everytime. It's not difficult really if you try it once on a calculator. Simple multiplication and division and subtraction. I'm just a dumbass trucker....i got time on my hands too!
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TyeeTanic

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So I got the CV45 reel. I managed to get almost 700 ft of 30# power prO and 250 ft of 45# copper! I spooled 200 ft at first and knew right away I could get at least another 50 ft on. I measure the line independently of the reel counter to make sure how much line I had on.

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I think you'll be happy with the extra 50 ft. I have a 250 and a 275 and they are pretty flexible....you can always add snap weights etc. if you want to go deeper

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