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12 hours ago, Frogger said:


Do it. Nothing’s changed regarding copper, may have to clean it a few more times but they still work. Buddy and I were on Cayuga a few weeks ago and I pulled out the twin for old times sake and had a ball. Caught weeds but was still fun. Keep Copper Alive!
 

Thanks Frogger, appreciated - I think I'll dust ol Vicky off this weekend and give it a go, miss those hard strikes!

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I wrote a couple weeks back and have tried a couple different ways to reel copper wire. The extension cord reel in photo has worked best. I live in Naples and use Sutton spoons and fish Hemlock and Canandaigua  Lakes.
After a couple of outings and losing a few lures I’m getting the hang of it. 
The extension cord reel is held by a grip in the center. Your thumb can work as a drag     and prevent slack and loose tangles. I did clip the swivel off the spoon and that seems to keep the hook up and off the bottom.

Thanks for all the help!

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On ‎7‎/‎20‎/‎2020 at 7:22 PM, Paul W said:

I wrote a couple weeks back and have tried a couple different ways to reel copper wire. The extension cord reel in photo has worked best. I live in Naples and use Sutton spoons and fish Hemlock and Canandaigua  Lakes.
After a couple of outings and losing a few lures I’m getting the hang of it. 
The extension cord reel is held by a grip in the center. Your thumb can work as a drag     and prevent slack and loose tangles. I did clip the swivel off the spoon and that seems to keep the hook up and off the bottom.

Thanks for all the help!

EE75126B-CE95-4E08-92E1-C1DBDD80F644.jpeg

Good job!  I think almost any way to wind up the copper will work as long as you don't end up with a rats nest.  I use have salt water rods with Penn 49 reels.  When I am pulling the copper, though, I always have the copper line in my hand.  SOme of the old timers used these wooden loom like things with a handle on either side one on top and one on bottom.  I also have a Victrola that works nice. 

 

I never liked the Sutton spoons for copper.  Always seemed too light for me.    I like the heavier Pflueger Record 4's, 4 1/2's and 5's (or copies) in all silver or blue and white combos.  I also prefer braided wire to solid to avoid kinks.  Finally on the Pflueger's I like the dangling hook versus the fixed but both work.    Sometimes you can find those spoons cheap on Ebay if you spell the search wrong.  A little hint for you. 

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Good job!  I think almost any way to wind up the copper will work as long as you don't end up with a rats nest.  I use have salt water rods with Penn 49 reels.  When I am pulling the copper, though, I always have the copper line in my hand.  SOme of the old timers used these wooden loom like things with a handle on either side one on top and one on bottom.  I also have a Victrola that works nice. 
 
I never liked the Sutton spoons for copper.  Always seemed too light for me.    I like the heavier Pflueger Record 4's, 4 1/2's and 5's (or copies) in all silver or blue and white combos.  I also prefer braided wire to solid to avoid kinks.  Finally on the Pflueger's I like the dangling hook versus the fixed but both work.    Sometimes you can find those spoons cheap on Ebay if you spell the search wrong.  A little hint for you. 


Thanks for all the advice and sharing what comes from experience. I’m using solid wire which I inherited from my Dad who used it for wiring up car medallion jewelry for plating. I will keep in mind braided for sure and look out for Pfueger lures. The Sutton I prefer after trying a couple sizes is the 88 hammered.


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I've used a contraption about the same as my sewing machine reel. Same gear reduction motor, same size reel, the pedal to reel it in, & the same spoon, but with braid copper on it. For me, it hurts the "feel" of the spoon & the bottom. The braid it seems I'm always running out more wire to get that "feel". Still caught fish, but I don't know if it bellies up like leadcore can or what. I'm talking like twice the braid to fish 80' deep. I learned on solid wire with the old 2 handled wooden reel I guess. That tick tick tick is what I'm familiar with. Now if I could just get some time to get out fishing. Good luck to all you yankers. So fun fighting a big ol' boy to the boat hand over hand.

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9 hours ago, 2lbperch said:

I've used a contraption about the same as my sewing machine reel. Same gear reduction motor, same size reel, the pedal to reel it in, & the same spoon, but with braid copper on it. For me, it hurts the "feel" of the spoon & the bottom. The braid it seems I'm always running out more wire to get that "feel". Still caught fish, but I don't know if it bellies up like leadcore can or what. I'm talking like twice the braid to fish 80' deep. I learned on solid wire with the old 2 handled wooden reel I guess. That tick tick tick is what I'm familiar with. Now if I could just get some time to get out fishing. Good luck to all you yankers. So fun fighting a big ol' boy to the boat hand over hand.

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Tick tick tick.   That's the secret. 

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19 hours ago, Chicong said:

I never liked the Sutton spoons for copper.  Always seemed too light for me.    I like the heavier Pflueger Record 4's, 4 1/2's and 5's (or copies) in all silver or blue and white combos.  I also prefer braided wire to solid to avoid kinks.  Finally on the Pflueger's I like the dangling hook versus the fixed but both work.    Sometimes you can find those spoons cheap on Ebay if you spell the search wrong.  A little hint for you. 

The lighter Sutton's are used differently than the Pflueger's and represent another tool in the arsenal if used correctly. They are best used with a leader and sometimes a sinker on a drop line from a three-way swivel.. The spoon that way runs just off bottom rather than bouncing  constantly on bottom.Sometimes the fish respond better to this method but the main method is still the Pflueger (and imitations) , Barracuda, Great Lakes, Bladerunner and similar spoons run right on bottom and tied directly to the single strand copper. Braided copper works fine for the current usage on copper rigs but it offers quite a bit more resistance in the water than single strand and in my experience anyway the feel of the bottom isn't as sensitive (critical to this type of fishing). Once again though personal preference comes into the equation and there is no right or wrong answer to this:smile: An area where this becomes important is when you run out of the "tick tick tick on cobble and enter mud bottom or weeds.....sensitivity becomes very important then.As far as positioning of the hook on the Pfleuger the fixed hook avoids snags better than the loose version in some stretches of bottom so it may depend on the specific bottom characteristics of where you are fishing.

Just an FYI but if having trouble finding the Pfleugers the Great Lakes #4 is as close as it gets in looks and performance (both the silver and Blue Mullet).

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