Help installing rod holders

[Bpm905]

Rookie question... Can't wait to start trolling for salmon, but need some help. How do I appropriately install the rod holders within the pic? Do I mount them directly on the gunwale? I have a princecraft 172. Looking to start with dispy divers and expand afterwards. 

 

[dickey]

Can you reach under the gunwale? If so I would get a metal plate cut the same size and the rod holder base. Clamp the plate to base and drill holes through the plate using the holes on the rod holder. Put rod holder where you want it and drill though the gunwale and using stainless bolts, washers and locking nuts attach the plate underneath the gunwale. Thicker the plate the better. This is what I did with my tracks on my boat. Dipseys rods have a lot of pressure on them. Maybe someone else will have a better idea. Any questions message me.

Rick


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[fisherdude]

If it was me I wouldn't use the lock tight rod holder . I would go with tracks with 1/ 4 aluminum backing plate. Then pick a good Dipsy ratcheting rod holder .

 

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[Mike M]

I agree with fisferdude track setup is the way to go. My boat I have 4 ft of traxtech track on port and starboard gunwale. On that track I have a rigger,a ball cradle, and 4 traxteck rod holders. The rod hplders will be used for 1 or 2 dipseys per side. The other rod holders used for lesdcore or weighted steel lines off inline boards. If I had to do it over I'd go with cannon rod holders just like em better. The track doesn't matter that much its pretty much all the same. Just  my HO.

[Mike M]

You cannot have to many rod holders on a fishing boat in MHO. On my 22 ft PenYann I have 19 rod holders that all get used. 7 are on the hard top. I hate rods laying on the floor. Just my HO.

[guffins fisherman]

Don't put your dipsys in titeloks. They will eventually go for a swim. Use them for storage and planer rods. Put a heavy duty holder in front of them, and put them all in track.

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[jigstick]

Please do yourself a favor and get good rod holders. Especially for dipsys. Get yourself some MuddyCreek track and rod holders.   I like them better than my Cisco rod holders for dipsy use. 

[Sk8man]

You are getting some excellent advice here. Dipsy diver rod holders receive a lot of torque from both the dipsy and then when a large fish such as a king hits the tension on the rod holder is very substantial and it can quickly become the weak link in your system and become costly. Installing track can distribute the torque along the gunwale and serve a s a relatively substantially stable base for them and you have the added luxury of being able to move or re-position the rod holders. The Tite Locks can be OK as additional rod holders for lighter stuff but the dipsy holders need to be sturdier. If you do decide to go with them make sure you attach safety lines to your rods/reels.  Cannon single axial holders, Bert's racheting holders, Cisco's etc. are not cheap but they will perform much better in safeguarding your equipment. In the long run they can become a much cheaper option

Edited June 16, 2021 by Sk8man

[dickey]

Originally I commented on what you asked about using the ones you had but I have to agree with the group on it you have the option I would install a track with good rod holders. I have Bert’s track on my boat and still put a plate underneath for extra strength. I have cannon dual axis rod holders for dipseys as love them.


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[Ltuccini]

Berts or Traxtech tracks are very solid and fun when installed correctly. Your wide gunnels look perfect for installation. But you GOTTA make sure they are absolutely solid. If you can get underneath the gunnel, you are lucky. Go to local smaller hardware store and tell him what you're end result is but HUGE pressure. Worst case if you can't get under gunnel is super high end Marine adhesive plus you thread your gunnel to accept screws. Hardware guy should explain. Or aluminum boat dealer parts counter. When done you should be able to swing rod holders flat over the gunnel (same position as using dipsies) and they should hold 100lbs easily in the air over the side. You can do it. Have fun!

[Bpm905]

All of you guys rock.Thank you for the advice - what a great community. I'm going to return the Tite-loks and go for something more sturdy as suggested. Likewise install a tracks on both sides with a plate underneath...hopefully.

Just leaving the marina, but...

I can get my hand under the gunnel. However, can't touch the gunnel from the bottom. There seems to be a an inch of a gap with a thin metal sheet right under. Should I drill through the gunnel and that sheet?

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Edited June 17, 2021 by Bpm905

[Bpm905]

Here's what's under the carpet area, very easy access. Same thin plate of metal underneath.

[Ltuccini]

Check Traxtech website. They've got a Princecraft with track mounted. Give 'em a call. They are very helpful.

[mr 580]

Can’t tell from your photo’s but your Princecraft might have slotted rails that would allow brackets to mount tracks on.  Check with your dealer or someone like Traxstech.  This would save you from drilling gunnels and putting backer to support the tracks.  The brackets I’m referring to are sometimes called “t brackets” and vary between manufacturers of the boat.

[Shawn G]

Bpm905 how did the rod holder installation go?  I have a princecraft 172max and was wondering if you went with traxtech.  

[Princecraftdan]

  On 6/17/2021 at 12:20 AM, Bpm905 said:

Here's what's under the carpet area, very easy access. Same thin plate of metal underneath.

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Did you end up putting tracks on this area? Is it solid?

[Princecraftdan]

Did you end up putting tracks on this area? Is it solid?

[sherman brown]

  On 6/15/2021 at 11:57 PM, Bpm905 said:

Rookie question... Can't wait to start trolling for salmon, but need some help. How do I appropriately install the rod holders within the pic? Do I mount them directly on the gunwale? I have a princecraft 172. Looking to start with dispy divers and expand afterwards. 

 

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I gave all my old title lock rod holders away and installed cannon tracks to start, then added Cisco tracks later, and went with cannon catching rod holders. But I believe Traxstech has the sturdiest ratcheting holders, as I tried them because they have 17 up and down adjustments. But I went back to Cannon as they are one-handed operation. But I fish for walleye and believe the Traxstech might be best for salmon.

 

I didn't have a clue and started with 24" tracks that worked for my 3 divers on each side with the Sealine Sg17lca reels, which are small. However, they were still cramped, so I added another 24" track in front of the ones I had. However, when we got another larger boat, I added another 24" track. The price has gone wild on tracks.

 

I just bought an old 18-foot glass boat with a 14-HP Mercruiser to use on Erie's central basin when my son doesn't go with our 26-foot boat. I may have made a mistake and bought Tite Lock tracks for it. I will have to check them out, and if I'm not happy, I will return them and get Cisco or Muddycreek tracks. I got 36-foot tracks, which should be long enough for me.

 

But in retrospect, the 3 24" tracks work pretty darn good, but cost more than 1 long one to start with. I recommend you mount them as far back as you can. Get the longest track that will fit on your gunwale. with the 3 24" we run 3 in the back for our divers plus 2 more for spares plus 1 fixed at a angle out that we use for our nets. And I don't use my riggers in the tracks as I have them mounted as far back as I can and still reach them.

 

Hope I haven't bored you to sleep.

[mr 580]

A heads up fellas that you are responding to a post from 2021 and that the original poster Bpm905 last visited this site on June 21, 2021.  He was active here about a week.  So not likely he’ll respond.

[Princecraftdan]

Thanks for the info Mr 580. Guess I can stop waiting for that reply