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Heading to henderson friday through monday was hoping someone could tell me how well the kings are stacking up in the trench and has water temp been stable there . THANKS

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Get on Facebook. Friend Bill Saiff. He is the man for that area and often posts "the magic" info 

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He'll tell you the limit is 14 salmon per man!!🤣🤣🤣🤣.


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Heading to henderson friday through monday was hoping someone could tell me how well the kings are stacking up in the trench and has water temp been stable there . THANKS

Temp was 70* @ 100. 55* at 110. Lots of marks on the bottom, lots of lock jaw also.


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I'm out of the game this year because I ripped my bicep tendon off the bone. I'm cheering you folks on and greatly appreciate the posts because I'm crawling out of my skin! This time of year if they are not cooperating I would try switching over to J-Plugs and drag them right in their face to piss them off. Just a thought. 

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Have had to deal with lock jaw issue before it can be pain full when you cant find what will piss them off got some big paddles .6 inch flies ,j plugs ,and going to even try some large mag lips on them . THANKS GUYS FOR THE REPORT 

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Got a question about the J-plugs. This is my first year fiahing Lake Ontario. Been a good year (for a rookie) so far but i know its gonna get better.  I’m from pa so only get up for 1-2weekends a month.  I got one hell of a J-plug collection but never used one yet.  All spoons n flies. How do I present the J-plug?  Behind 8” flasher, or bigger flasher? Or by itself? And color flasher if so. Do i try to match flasher color to J-plug?  Any help from you guys is much appreciated 

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Got a question about the J-plugs. This is my first year fiahing Lake Ontario. Been a good year (for a rookie) so far but i know its gonna get better.  I’m from pa so only get up for 1-2weekends a month.  I got one hell of a J-plug collection but never used one yet.  All spoons n flies. How do I present the J-plug?  Behind 8” flasher, or bigger flasher? Or by itself? And color flasher if so. Do i try to match flasher color to J-plug?  Any help from you guys is much appreciated 

Silver red face 10-15 off the ball


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Bloody nose bullet with a Mountain Dew ladder back.
Bright sun.

Green glow ladder back early or late. Or overcast
Run it long under those conditions 30-50’

All glow orca long 50’ early. Till sun starts to come over the horizon or when it hits the water

Good luck


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Hey Finchdude...

 

Before you lose all respect for Bill Saiff III and publically denounce him any further (and this goes for "ontherise" and everyone else for that matter).,,you should ask him to tell you his side of the story.

 

Yeah. opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one but the most informed are the least full of sh*t!!!

 

Let's not lose sight of the intent of this website and the fundamentals of fishing...;

 

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Hey Finchdude...
 
Before you lose all respect for Bill Saiff III and publically denounce him any further (and this goes for "ontherise" and everyone else for that matter).,,you should ask him to tell you his side of the story.
 
Yeah. opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one but the most informed are the least full of sh*t!!!
 
Let's not lose sight of the intent of this website and the fundamentals of fishing...;
 
I'm not from around Henderson is this the guy that ran a duck hunt charter and was found guilty of hunting over a baited pond . ????

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Nope... I know all I need to know...thank you.


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I've been screwed over staying at his lodge I agree lost all respect

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So how is the fishing?


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I'm not from around Henderson is this the guy that ran a duck hunt charter and was found guilty of hunting over a baited pond . ????

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The story I heard is. He was guilty because his guide or guides were hunting over bait. He being the business owner is responsible, he may or may not have been able to fight his way around it but he didn’t. He excepted the responsibility for his employees actions and payed restitution for them. I think he is a stand up guy. JMO.


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I find that hard to believe because if you speak to him or watch his videos all his chapter boats are on the same program right down to how far to run a fly behind a flasher so everything is his way

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I definitely say BS! I guarantee he knew exactly what was going on, but go ahead and put him on a pedestal. His operation takes a huge illegal shortcut in order to raise profits at the expense of the outdoors...no matter how you look at it he isn't the great stand up guy you describe. The words I'd use would poacher, cheater, and greed!

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You guys are unreal.  I click on this thread to see what is going on in the Trench, and you guys have hijacked this thread with old news, hear say and biased opinion.  Get over it, or start your own thread.

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Sorry I did mean to start this conversation. A guy was requesting info for the trench. Figured Saiff Charters would be the people to ask. Sorry for the mess it stirred up 

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Sorry I did mean to start this conversation. A guy was requesting info for the trench. Figured Saiff Charters would be the people to ask. Sorry for the mess it stirred up 
No need to be sorry. I hope you found what you were looking for. The Bill Saiff is very knowledgeable in those parts and can be one of many great resources in the Henderson area.

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Just now, guffins fisherman said:
5 hours ago, piscataquis said:
Sorry I did mean to start this conversation. A guy was requesting info for the trench. Figured Saiff Charters would be the people to ask. Sorry for the mess it stirred up 

No need to be sorry. I hope you found what you were looking for. The Bill Saiff is very knowledgeable in those parts and can be one of many great resources in the Henderson area.

He taught a friend and I a lot about fishing the trench and the shipping lanes

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